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re: UF will not be playing in BR nor will any rules re: SECCG be changed.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:36 pm to Titus Pullo
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:36 pm to Titus Pullo
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If a team doesn't have 8 conf games, they won't be playing for the SECCG.
If your saying by rule it can't happen I think that is simply not true.
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:41 pm to Titus Pullo
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If a team doesn't have 8 conf games, they won't be playing for the SECCG.
Is that really a rule? Never heard of it but I guess this is a first year a team could potentially not play all their conference games.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:51 pm to BamaAlum02
It states that the team with the highest percentage is the champion, but also states that all teams must play 8 conference games. The percentage is likely a relic from back before it was 8 games (when SEC teams used to play 6-8 depending on their scheduling preferences). The bottom line is that there is ambiguity, and we lack precedent in the modern era of football for this type of scenario. My guess is that the league will either make them play or find a way to keep UT from getting the short end of the stick.
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:54 pm to 14&Counting
QB David Smith was injured. (Off the field injury maybe..car wreck?)
I will try to find a link I guess. Although it doesn't really make a shite.
I will try to find a link I guess. Although it doesn't really make a shite.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:56 pm to BamaAlum02
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Now if Auburn managed to only lose 1 more game and LSU was 6-1 then they might have an argument (assuming Alabama is out of SECW race and it is down to LSU/Auburn). Auburn would be 6-2 with H2H over LSU and LSU would be 6-1 and go to Atlanta without the Florida game.
well we wanted to play.
talk to UForfeit
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:59 pm to cal24
I may be mistaken, but I read earlier this week (no link, my apologies) that 8 conference games are required for each SEC team's schedule.
With that being said, if a team doesn't play 8 games, they would be in violation of the scheduling guidelines which should make them ineligible for the SECCG.
Again, I may be mistaken if what I read is incorrect.
It wouldn't be the first time. I think it will be a moot point or I would look it up.
If it's still an issue around mid November I will try to look it up again.
With that being said, if a team doesn't play 8 games, they would be in violation of the scheduling guidelines which should make them ineligible for the SECCG.
Again, I may be mistaken if what I read is incorrect.
It wouldn't be the first time. I think it will be a moot point or I would look it up.
If it's still an issue around mid November I will try to look it up again.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:05 pm to Ingloriousbastard
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It states that the team with the highest percentage is the champion, but also states that all teams must play 8 conference games
This is what I read (quoted) and the bolded part is what I going by with my belief that if a team doesn't play 8 games, they won't be playing for the SECCG.
But that's my interpretation and understanding. Which doesn't amount to shite if the powers that be say otherwise.
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The bottom line is that there is ambiguity, and we lack precedent in the modern era of football for this type of scenario. My guess is that the league will either make them play or find a way to keep UT from getting the short end of the stick.
I agree with all of this.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:26 pm to Titus Pullo
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QB David Smith was injured. (Off the field injury maybe..car wreck?)
You're probably right....can't really remember
I remember Curry taking boatload of flack for it.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:31 pm to Titus Pullo
[SEC Bylaw 30.22.1.3] The Conference champion will be determined by a game between the two division champions. The team in each division with the highest percentage of wins during all regular-season Conference competition will be declared division champion. If two or more teams are tied with the highest percentage of wins, they will be declared division co-champions. Division standings will be calculated on a percentage basis, using only those Conference games which are a part of the regular rotating schedule. Details on all tie-breaking procedures are outlined in these Commissioner's Regulations. The site of the championship game shall be set by a vote of the Conference member institutions.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:34 pm to 14&Counting
Here, it's an Aggie site, but they aren't wrong.
Even more crazy is that Aggie lost their starting QB vs UTx and had to go with their backup, who D Thomas
ate alive. He went the frick off.
Also, Aggie had just gotten word at the beginning of the season that they were in probation, including a bowl ban. And with Jackie Sherrill as their coach, it wouldn't completely surprise me if he didnt sign off on the game being moved, under false protest to the media, so that this game could be used as a bowl game for Aggie. But that's just a tinfoil hat theory. There was a Hurricane Bowl trophy made up for the game, t-shirts, everything.
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[quote]In his second season in Tuscaloosa, Ala., Alabama head coach Bill Curry lost starting quarterback David Smith to a knee injury on Tuesday of game week, which left backup Jeff Dunn less than a week to prepare for an angry and talented A&M defense.
Even more crazy is that Aggie lost their starting QB vs UTx and had to go with their backup, who D Thomas
ate alive. He went the frick off. Also, Aggie had just gotten word at the beginning of the season that they were in probation, including a bowl ban. And with Jackie Sherrill as their coach, it wouldn't completely surprise me if he didnt sign off on the game being moved, under false protest to the media, so that this game could be used as a bowl game for Aggie. But that's just a tinfoil hat theory. There was a Hurricane Bowl trophy made up for the game, t-shirts, everything.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:45 pm to cal24
The lack of 8 conference games may not make a team ineligible, but I believe that it would. Which my interpretation isn't worth the bandwidth it takes to post it as far as what will happen. All that being said, I don't think it will matter.
It would be nice if the fricking commissioner of the most powerful conference in CFB would come out and give everyone some insight as to exactly WTF is going on. I hope to god he has spoken to ADs and they aren't sitting around like us trying to interpret how the regulations will be enforced.
As others have said, no way Slive or even that bastard Roy Kramer would not have cleared this up by now, at least part of it.
Because if UF & LSU are ineligible unless they meet the scheduling guidelines, like I interpret the rules, then they have a frick ton more motivation to get this hammered out.
And if UF dicks around and LSU losses another conference games, then LSU could frick UF over by not giving an inch to UF and cause them to be ineligible.
All that being said, I still stand by my opinion that neither of the two things I said in the OP will happen.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:49 pm to Titus Pullo
They are probably doing the same thing they were doing last week Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. Eating Doughnuts and drinking Coffee.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:49 pm to Titus Pullo
14&counting
Maybe you should do a little more digging. You would see that Baton Rouge just went through a historical flood and the local economy lost 10's of millions. To take away a home game now would set back the economy even further. Aleva said we were having a "home game" on Nov. 19th. He didn't say anything about it being USA. He doesn't care who we play, just wants to do the right thing for Baton Rouge.
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Yeah these LSU fricktards will cut their nose off just to spite their face
Maybe you should do a little more digging. You would see that Baton Rouge just went through a historical flood and the local economy lost 10's of millions. To take away a home game now would set back the economy even further. Aleva said we were having a "home game" on Nov. 19th. He didn't say anything about it being USA. He doesn't care who we play, just wants to do the right thing for Baton Rouge.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:51 pm to Ingloriousbastard
nothing about having to play 8 games.
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Also, there’s a football component to a postponed football game. A big one. 1. Other SEC schools are privately furious. SB Nation spoke to multiple head coaches after the game’s scheduling became indefinite. "I think we'd have a problem if that game caused an issue with either division champion," a SEC head coach told SB Nation on Thursday.
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2. Other SEC schools are not willing to help. SB Nation has learned that the SEC contacted at least two other schools since Friday in an effort to move conference games to accommodate an LSU-Florida make-up date. The results have been predictable: No one has been remotely interested in altering their schedule with a few weeks’ notic
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:52 pm to cal24
Probably.
This is some Big 12 type bullshite that's going on.
This is some Big 12 type bullshite that's going on.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:52 pm to LB41
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He doesn't care who we play, just wants to do the right thing for Baton Rouge.
Same thing Foley is doing, no?
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:56 pm to roadGator
He would have had a game and all his money if he would waited to play on Sunday or Monday. Now zero.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:57 pm to Nado Jenkins83
Everyone understands how the division winner is determined in a regular season when the scheduling guidelines are met.
Look at the SEC scheduling guidelines from wherever you got that screenshot and see if it says anything about how many conference games must be played each season.
Forget the part about determining a division champ for a second, because that's going on the premise that all other guidelines have been met and the teams involved in a tie would be eligible.
Look at the SEC scheduling guidelines from wherever you got that screenshot and see if it says anything about how many conference games must be played each season.
Forget the part about determining a division champ for a second, because that's going on the premise that all other guidelines have been met and the teams involved in a tie would be eligible.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 4:02 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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Other SEC schools are privately furious
Oh really?
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Other SEC schools are not willing to help
Oh well.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 4:02 pm to LB41
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Maybe you should do a little more digging. You would see that Baton Rouge just went through a historical flood and the local economy lost 10's of millions. To take away a home game now would set back the economy even further.
Same thing could be said for UF in regards to losing a home game and they also don't need to lose revenue because they just had s hurricane.
It's fricked up for LSU, no doubt and I understand LSU not wanting to budge, and that's fine. But no one else in the conference is going to bend over backwards for LSU and UF. It is up to those two schools & the SEC office to figure this out.
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2. Other SEC schools are not willing to help. SB Nation has learned that the SEC contacted at least two other schools since Friday in an effort to move conference games to accommodate an LSU-Florida make-up date. The results have been predictable: No one has been remotely interested in altering their schedule with a few weeks’ notic
My point exactly.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 4:05 pm
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