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re: UF will not be playing in BR nor will any rules re: SECCG be changed.

Posted on 10/12/16 at 10:00 am to
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 10:00 am to
In your case there will only be one team bitching and that will be Tennessee when they are 6-2 and UF is 6-1 and UF goes to Atlanta.....because we all know that LSU would have beaten UF by at least 3 TDs with all the injuries they had...you know it, I know it, Foley knows it, and McIlwain knows it. Florida gamed the system because they didn't want any part of playing LSU last weekend and the hurricane gave them an easy out....end of story.

It won't stop Tennessee from bitching though.

FWIW as an LSU fan I'm 100% fine with how LSU handled this situation. We offered every conceivable scenario to play on or around 10/8 and UF turned down every offer. Why in the hell would LSU give up anything (IE money, a home game, etc) to play this game on any other date....especially if as you say we don't win out. The only thing I'd like to have is the ability to make that call on 11/13 in the event that LSU does win every SEC game up to that point.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45106 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 10:11 am to
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I think he does.


Actually he doesn't

LINK

page 6. SEC commissioners regulations.


2. Authority. Authority to delay or relocate a contest is vested with the home institution’s Athletics Director
or designated senior level administrator. Authority to suspend a contest is vested with the officials. Authority
to cancel, postpone or terminate a contest is vested only with the Commissioner or his/her designee.
3. Guidelines.
A. The home institution’s Athletics Director or designated senior level administrator shall have the authority
to determine whether a contest should, prior to its start, be temporarily delayed until a later time on the
same date. Once a contest has started, the decision to suspend play is the responsibility of the game
officials.
B. If extenuating circumstances occur that necessitate the relocation of the contest site within the same city,
the home institution’s Athletics Director or designated senior level administrator shall have the authority
to determine whether and where the contest should be relocated. The decision should be made in
consultation with the visiting team. The alternate site must be in full compliance with all NCAA playing
rules and regulations governing that particular sport.
C. If a contest is postponed prior to its start for any reason, the two participating institutions, in consultation
with the Commissioner or his/her designee, shall attempt to reschedule the game at a later time or date.
If the contest cannot be rescheduled, the Commissioner shall cancel the contest.
D. If a contest is suspended for any reason after play has begun, the contest must be resumed as soon as
conditions are deemed safe by the officials in consultation with the home team game management
personnel.
E. A suspended contest may not be resumed after midnight local time, or two hours following the point of
suspension, whichever is later.

Nothing in here gives the Commissioner authority to tell the schools when or if a game will be played. All it does is give him the power to cancel it if the schools can't come to a agreement.

There will be a rule change, its has to happen.

Its Sanky's weak leadership that allowed this to happen. Plans should have been put in place early last week that designated if this happens, we do this. If that happens, we do that. Poor Poor leadership. This may not cause Sanky to lose his job directly. But make no mistake it will likely create a situation where he has zero margin for error from here on out. The next miss step and he will be gone.

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59606 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 10:14 am to
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If a contest is postponed prior to its start for any reason, the two participating institutions, in consultation
with the Commissioner or his/her designee, shall attempt to reschedule the game at a later time or date.
If the contest cannot be rescheduled, the Commissioner shall cancel the contest.


what is sankey waiting for?


this shite is gold. still mad we missed a game because they drug their feet. when will he attempt to fix this?
i bet next week its all of a sudden a top priority
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1634 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 10:20 am to
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Sanky's weak leadership that allowed this to happen. Plans should have been put in place early last week that designated if this happens, we do this. If that happens, we do that. Poor Poor leadership. This may not cause Sanky to lose his job directly. But make no mistake it will likely create a situation where he has zero margin for error from here on out.


Bingo!

Fantastic job by Foley doing what was best for U of F and screwing everything else up.

Horrible job by Sankey allowing Foley to do it.

Thus the turd samich we have now.
Posted by Titus Pullo
MTDGA
Member since Feb 2011
28567 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:25 am to
I'm just going based off posts in here and the tiger rant.

I know, I'm a dumbass for thinking that's representative of the majority of what LSU fans think.
Posted by Titus Pullo
MTDGA
Member since Feb 2011
28567 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:30 am to
A team with only 7 conference games will not be in Atlanta.

And for the record, I do think Foley probably used this to his advantage, but he had enough "reasons" to make it sound legit.

Just like Bama in 1988.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139983 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:32 am to
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not to mention all the recruits they hosted.


Explain
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59606 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:42 am to
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A team with only 7 conference games will not be in Atlanta.


sure about that?

don't see a real rule on it.
Posted by Titus Pullo
MTDGA
Member since Feb 2011
28567 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:54 am to
Unless I'm mistaken, I think I read that the bylaws state each conf team must play 8 games.

I don't have a link, so I may be mistaken about that.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37607 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:59 am to
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Just like Bama in 1988.


Wut? Bama played that game after the Auburn game. It was easy enough to do as there was no SECCG but the game was played.
Posted by Titus Pullo
MTDGA
Member since Feb 2011
28567 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:03 pm to
I'm saying that the UA used it to their advantage. I'm as big a Bama fan as there is, but I'm not denying it was done to give us time to rest our QB.

Then we kicked Aggies arse.

This is what I was referring to when I said Bama did the same thing in '88.

quote:

And for the record, I do think Foley probably used this to his advantage, but he had enough "reasons" to make it sound legit.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 12:05 pm
Posted by cal24
Member since Oct 2016
12 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:24 pm to
Really the only teams that could be an issue for is Auburn and Tennessee. If LSU were to run the table and be 6-1 and Auburn is 6-2 they would have a beef. Also if Florida were to run the table and Tennessee is 6-2 then they would have a beef. Other than that I don't think there are any issues. Also probably neither LSU or Florida will win out but sure hope this happens to the SEC for failing last week.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9611 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:43 pm to
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Just trying to add a dose of reality to the board after reading absurd thread after thread about what accommodations LSU fans think other SEC teams and the SEC will make.


O'rly? Tiger fans were the ones saying that the rest of the SEC shouldn't pay for Florida's screw up/chickening out.

I know that this has been said numerous times, but I just thought I'd add a dose of reality here.
Posted by Titus Pullo
MTDGA
Member since Feb 2011
28567 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 1:46 pm to
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In your case there will only be one team bitching and that will be Tennessee when they are 6-2 and UF is 6-1 and UF goes to Atlanta.....


Wont happen either. UF won't be in Atlanta if the game isn't played.

If a team doesn't have 8 conf games, they won't be playing for the SECCG.
Posted by BamaAlum02
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2005
1009 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:17 pm to
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When 6-1 LSU goes to Atl over 6-2 Bama you will be like but but they HAVE to play that game!!!


In that scenario, wouldn't LSU go to Atlanta no matter what happened in the FL game?

For LSU to be 6-1 and Alabama to be 6-2 LSU would have to beat Alabama and then someone else would also beat them.

Even if the game was played and Florida beat LSU, both LSU and Alabama would be 6-2 with LSU owning the H2H tie breaker.

So best case scenario would be the same records with Alabama losing the tie breaker; worst case is LSU wins the division outright. Not sure why Alabama would care at that point since we would be staying home December 3rd no matter what happened.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59606 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:20 pm to
This is why gumps are all in a pissy mood.

They can see the future and it's lsu riding into Atlanta at 6-1
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 2:21 pm
Posted by HeavyD
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
1036 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:32 pm to
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You will either figure out a way to make it to Gainesville or you won't. But the conference isn't going to change any rules for you, or UF, re: eligibility for Atlanta. It's laughable that anyone thinks otherwise.

I don't think the game is played.

Also, I HIGHLY doubt any other SEC teams are going to rearrange their schedule and inconvenience their fans who have made travel and lodging plans for a certain game on a certain date.



I agree with this. if I were one of the other SEC teams, I wouldn't either. These games help the local economies as much as it does the universities. Some businesses rely heavily on these weekends. I doubt you get the same size crowds if you start moving games. Just my opinion.
Posted by BamaAlum02
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2005
1009 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:35 pm to
I don't think anyone is in a pissy mood (at least I'm not). Just pointing out that if LSU gets to 6-1 then the LSU/UF game is no longer relevant to Alabama's division chances.

Now if Auburn managed to only lose 1 more game and LSU was 6-1 then they might have an argument (assuming Alabama is out of SECW race and it is down to LSU/Auburn). Auburn would be 6-2 with H2H over LSU and LSU would be 6-1 and go to Atlanta without the Florida game.
Posted by cal24
Member since Oct 2016
12 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:35 pm to
Don't think there is anything in the rule book that says you must have 8 conf games. It goes by winning percentage.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37607 posts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

I'm as big a Bama fan as there is, but I'm not denying it was done to give us time to rest our QB.


It was the second game of the season after a tune-up game against Temple
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