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re: UAB Creates Athletic Foundation to Circumvent U of A Board of Trustees

Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:08 pm to
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CFB is King right now and UAB has to capitalize on that. I think getting a stadium and decent athletic facilities could go a long way in helping to achieve that



CFB is King at the top 15 or so schools which fund their conference sister universities. It is a vast wasteland at the non Power 5 schools.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79189 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:08 pm to
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Sure, but this is not an academic discussion.



Yeah but visibility and attractiveness still matter. Having bad athletic programs is still a way to seem more like a real school and less like a commuter school where professionals get MBAs.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 12:10 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:10 pm to
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I bet you cant even give 2 legitimate reasons why Bear Bryant was a piece of shite that isn't "he was a raging drunk" or "a redneck wife beater"


Douche.



Do you need more than those two reasons to make you a piece of shite?
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:11 pm to
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Yeah but visibility and attractiveness still matter. Having bad athletic programs is still a way to seem more like a real school and less like a commuter school where professionals get MBAs.



The entire stated purpose of athletics at a university is to enhance student life. There is very little student life at directional schools thus the athletics are wasted. South Alabama has a beautiful on campus basketball arena. Students do not go to the games.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:11 pm to
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Having bad athletic programs is still a way to seem more like a real school and less like a commuter school where professionals get MBAs.


I think that type of attitude has really backfired on a lot of places, Georgia State being the best example. People at the Georgia Regents talk about allowing Georgia State to start football as their biggest mistake of the last 10-15 years.

Places like UAB and Georgia State should fully invest in playing basketball. Build great gyms, give the programs money, win games. Places like Gonzaga and Belmont have gotten great exposure for being well known basketball programs. Way more exposure than Ga State losing every game on TV by 50 in football has.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Golgi Apparatus
Member since Sep 2009
2554 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:13 pm to
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Birmingham is Atlanta without the traffic and with more character. Atlanta and Dallas are typical Nouveau riche Southern Cities, with a sterile inner city. When the Minor League team built a stadium downtown, it broke the League attendence records. People will support UAB, when the do not have to attend games in that shite hole called Legion Field. Ask KY fans their opinion of LF.


I haven't posted here in over a year but had to after reading this. That's the level of dumb your comment was.

I'd advise you to step outside buckhead next time you come to ATL. It's not at all representative of the rest of the city.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79189 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:14 pm to
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The entire stated purpose of athletics at a university is to enhance student life. There is very little student life at directional schools thus the athletics are wasted. South Alabama has a beautiful on campus basketball arena. Students do not go to the games.



I think there is plenty of student life at directional schools, just not at UAB and GSU and other urban/commuter campuses.

And I'm not attesting that the idea of adding or enhancing athletic programs is wise, but I do think that is why there is so much focus on doing so, especially for state schools on the cusp of becoming solid regional universities.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79189 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:14 pm to
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I'd advise you to step outside buckhead next time you come to ATL. It's not at all representative of the rest of the city.



Also, there is a lot more to Buckhead than condos and Lenox. Plenty of history and old money.
Posted by TideJoe
Member since Sep 2012
939 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:15 pm to
UAB wants to act independent until they need money. They will never get the cash to build an on campus stadium.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:16 pm to
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Also, there is a lot more to Buckhead than condos and Lenox. Plenty of history and old money.


The standard Birmingham view of Atlanta as Buckhead, scary homeless people downtown and suburbs always makes me laugh.
Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
12627 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:17 pm to
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UAB doesn't succeed because they are located in quite honestly the shittiest city in the southeast sans downtown Atlanta.



Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:18 pm to
That makes more sense then some kind of conspiracy by the very people who subsidize UAB athletics to keep UAB athletics down

Or whatever it is that only crazy Auburn fans imply
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:19 pm to
The closest comparison I can give to UABs situation is UCF. UCF has had football since 1983 and moved to an on campus stadium in 2007. The attendance went up at the Citrus Bowl and then the on campus stadium was built and the attendance has actually DROPPED every year since they built the on campus stadium. LINK and UCF was a program that beat some big names

Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
12627 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:20 pm to
pot/kettle
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:21 pm to
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LOL. Dude I like Birmingham but it has pretty bad traffic and way less character than Atlanta. Your points about Atlanta and Dallas are partially legitimate, but acting like Birmingham is some character-rich city is insane. It's Atlanta-light on that front.


You have never been on 285 during rush hour. I laugh at those who complain about 280, I use to sit in traffic in Atlanta for 1 hour and a half everyday to go 15 miles to work. Atlanta's Metro area consist of new Office Buildings and Parking Decks. Atlanta has zero ethnic identity(ie NYC, Boston, SF). So Birmingham with less traffic gets my vote.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 12:27 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:21 pm to
What?

I'm not a conspiracy theorist
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:22 pm to
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The closest comparison I can give to UABs situation is UCF. UCF has had football since 1983 and moved to an on campus stadium in 2007. The attendance went up at the Citrus Bowl and then the on campus stadium was built and the attendance has actually DROPPED every year since they built the on campus stadium. LINK and UCF was a program that beat some big names


Yep. UCF is literally the only commuter school type program that I can think of that has had any sort of semi-sustained success in football, and even with that they still have trouble with alums (or students) caring.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30875 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:23 pm to
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on campus stadium


...

WHERE? It's smack dab in the middle of Birmingham.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:24 pm to
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Atlanta has zero ethnic identity(ie NYC, Boston, SF). So Birmingham with less traffic my vote.


Seriously, that's just stupid.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Golgi Apparatus
Member since Sep 2009
2554 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:24 pm to
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The standard Birmingham view of Atlanta as Buckhead, scary homeless people downtown and suburbs always makes me laugh.


Eh it's everyone really. I've even met people living in atlanta for years who have never been to any of the neighborhoods you previously mentioned. It's such a spread out place and some people never try to step outside their comfort zone.
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