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re: True or false? LSU related.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:14 am to roguetiger15
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:14 am to roguetiger15
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actually i think florida was number 1, lsu number 2
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[quote]do you mean against sec opponents or for the entire season?
No. He means for the year.
You're looking at total yards allowed for the year. Really easy to allow fewer yards when you play one less game.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 10:16 am
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:24 am to CrimsonChin
Big question mark with LM. His inability to coach up is a big negative, but we have the players to contend.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:26 am to Swm323
quote:this is really the question. why is LSU losing juniors at a higher rate. We recruit from the same pool so its not like LSU recruits families are generally poorer than a bama recruit. We don't have some kind of UGA program where we toss players for minor infractions. we haven't competed for a title since 11 so that could be part of it. We do have good position coaches for the most part so development shouldn't be an issue. Under utilization could be one but once we finally find work horses we use them. We are also selling kids on come here for 3 years. The problem seems to be we aren't recruiting enough to fill holes, and we aren't bringing their replacements up fast enough. We will need to increase processing to make sure we cover any short term holes and we need to trust our young guys more.
But why is that? Alabama is losing some all - world talent early also.
Les appears afraid to let the young kids make any mistake. Kids are going to mess up so we might need to let mistakes happen instead of trying to shield from it.
so to sum it up imo. 1. we are selling the NFL dream here, come for three years and leave.
2. Some positions might feel that aren't allowed to shine enough due to bad play from other positions.
3. somewhat of bad luck in what pieces are graduating in what year. For example OBJ and Landry would have been crazy to come back with a young unproven,worse qb than JJ stepping in for mett.
4. perception that we aren't going to compete seriously for the nc, either due to losses from the outside or outdated scheme.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 10:30 am
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:27 am to heartbreakTiger
Good post.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:36 am to Swm323
Id also add that now a success label is being slapped on so many LSU NFL players that people are willing to gamble even if the stats aren't there. Our players generally are going to pass the eye test, now with a narrative of Les miles can't coach up the talent teams are willing to gamble some on those that might have under performed at LSU.
I feel like we need to downshift some on selling the NFL dream. We need to get back to the win a title for your state for the instate kids and win a title while at LSU for the out of state kids. Still sell the NFL goal but put the title out in front. We also need to push hard on the success of the kids that do come back.
It wouldn't be a huge deal losing all of these kids if we had recruited to fill the gap, used juco guys as a stop gap, and trusted in our young kids faster. We do a good job of playing young kids on d but it still hasn't been enough.
I would love to see us starting using the cupcake ooc games as a practice, the starters pulled early and then run the real offense and defense with our back ups. sure we would make people cry if we won 70-0 but id rather our kids get some live game snaps in a real offense then just running out the clock. Though one could argue our real offense is just run up the middle anyways
I feel like we need to downshift some on selling the NFL dream. We need to get back to the win a title for your state for the instate kids and win a title while at LSU for the out of state kids. Still sell the NFL goal but put the title out in front. We also need to push hard on the success of the kids that do come back.
It wouldn't be a huge deal losing all of these kids if we had recruited to fill the gap, used juco guys as a stop gap, and trusted in our young kids faster. We do a good job of playing young kids on d but it still hasn't been enough.
I would love to see us starting using the cupcake ooc games as a practice, the starters pulled early and then run the real offense and defense with our back ups. sure we would make people cry if we won 70-0 but id rather our kids get some live game snaps in a real offense then just running out the clock. Though one could argue our real offense is just run up the middle anyways
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:38 am to heartbreakTiger
Good post. LSU should dominate next year.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:46 am to Swm323
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But why is that
Nfl rookie pay scale is a pay cut from bama.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:47 am to CrimsonChin
I don't think our qb play will come along enough for us to dominate and I don't think Les/cam are willing to use the spread. There were reports that we were installing the spread and then we never used it. Les gets cold feet on the change and reverts back to his college days at michigan. Even if we went to mostly shotgun and played Harris I don't think we would win the west next year. The d should keep us in every game and if we went to the o that I'm screaming for then we probably only lose 1 game.
The oline should be able to replace players and will have time to gel but injuries could mess us up. The dline should improve even though we lose a underrated rasco. our linebackers we will have to wait and see, id love for kwon to return. our secondary is stacked. I think special teams loses us a game because BDP is a clown and has no business still being on staff.
I expect Buga to get the most carries and dominate. our wrs wont have great stats but they are really good, they just don't have a qb that can get them the ball. Its way too early though to truly know what we will have next year since players still have to declare and we will need to see who comes in this class. Then hopefully harris wins in the spring and we avoid injuries. I think 2016 is more likely to be the year. However, in 03 everyone said 04 was going to be the nc year. In 07 we were suppose to be good, 11 it was suppose to be 2012 that everything aligned but instead 11 was great until 2012
I feel like 10-2 is likely even with harris and improvement from the o. Id bet we drop the ole miss game on some bad clock management/game management and probably the bama game.
The oline should be able to replace players and will have time to gel but injuries could mess us up. The dline should improve even though we lose a underrated rasco. our linebackers we will have to wait and see, id love for kwon to return. our secondary is stacked. I think special teams loses us a game because BDP is a clown and has no business still being on staff.
I expect Buga to get the most carries and dominate. our wrs wont have great stats but they are really good, they just don't have a qb that can get them the ball. Its way too early though to truly know what we will have next year since players still have to declare and we will need to see who comes in this class. Then hopefully harris wins in the spring and we avoid injuries. I think 2016 is more likely to be the year. However, in 03 everyone said 04 was going to be the nc year. In 07 we were suppose to be good, 11 it was suppose to be 2012 that everything aligned but instead 11 was great until 2012
I feel like 10-2 is likely even with harris and improvement from the o. Id bet we drop the ole miss game on some bad clock management/game management and probably the bama game.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:51 am to heartbreakTiger
I had very high expectations for 2012. Then we lost 3 starting olineman, starting rb, and 2 starting lbs, 2nd string dt, and starting de to injuries and tM7 to synthetic weed
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 10:52 am
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:55 am to Aman
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None of you want to admit it all comes back to Miles.
are you kidding me?
This might be the worst post in the history of the sec rant.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:56 am to JaxTiger10
I had high expectations for them as well. it was a bad offseason for that team. I meant though that in the 11 preseason most felt the team was about a year away from making a serious run. I think that was mainly due to the d being a tad young and what we had at qb in 11.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:59 am to Swm323
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Bama has gotten "lucky" in some regards relating to juniors declaring
One of the main reasons of Bama's dominance and the reason LSU struggles to maintain pace with Bama.
We both have all world talent.
Bama always has the experience to go along with the talent.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:01 am to CrimsonChin
Improved as if we had Mettenberger back? True. Improved as in Jennings putting QBR's in the teens? False.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:12 am to CBandits82
I don't think it all boils down to luck though. It might have some luck here and there involved in it but maybe the bama kids are getting better advice. The bama kids know that right now winning a national title is a realistic possibility every single year.That has something to do with why they could be returning and why they have a top recruiting class every year.
There are some key differences in the programs right now. The bama staff does a great job of maxing out their talent. They have shown the ability to evolve on offense to fit the players they have. They also for the most part have continuity between the type of players they are recruiting and the coaches specialties. Simms is really the outlier for them and yet they made it work.
We have the money to spend and we outspend them staff wise. We have great recruiters in Henry and Wilson, I feel like we need more. Also for as much shite as i give Les the man does a good job closing in living rooms. He lets some slip but shite happens. I feel like we have some dead weight on our staff and bama doesn't really have any dead weight on their staff.
As a program we need to reevaluate some things. We are close to being what bama is but have had some bad luck and maybe a tad bit of a country club feel around our program.
There are some key differences in the programs right now. The bama staff does a great job of maxing out their talent. They have shown the ability to evolve on offense to fit the players they have. They also for the most part have continuity between the type of players they are recruiting and the coaches specialties. Simms is really the outlier for them and yet they made it work.
We have the money to spend and we outspend them staff wise. We have great recruiters in Henry and Wilson, I feel like we need more. Also for as much shite as i give Les the man does a good job closing in living rooms. He lets some slip but shite happens. I feel like we have some dead weight on our staff and bama doesn't really have any dead weight on their staff.
As a program we need to reevaluate some things. We are close to being what bama is but have had some bad luck and maybe a tad bit of a country club feel around our program.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 11:14 am
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:09 pm to CrimsonChin
I'm surprised this thread had some legit discussion in it. One of the better threads on the rant lately.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:16 pm to CrimsonChin
True.
LSU D should be stacked, especially if Kwon returns.
And who are the offensive playmakers to challenge that D ? Dak? Henry? Collins?
LSU D should be stacked, especially if Kwon returns.
And who are the offensive playmakers to challenge that D ? Dak? Henry? Collins?
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:19 pm to heartbreakTiger
I know. It seems the past few days have been threads about worshiping Sabear's and bama's farts, and how they smell like fresh cinnamon rolls.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:30 pm to memphisplaya
I figured the loyal miles over LSU guys would be in here battling the bama fans.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:08 pm to cas4t
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Well LSU has sent injured players to the NFL who barely saw the field, and we all can't be fricking Alabama either. Y'all are literally the only program who reloads every year and doesn't miss a beat. Enjoy it because it won't last forever. But the rest of us actually have to deal with guys leaving.
Alabama only returned 2 starters to the 2010 defense. Rumor has it that 2015 Alabama will only return 2 offensive starters. 2015 Alabama has a tough schedule; 2010 Alabama did too. Injuries are a part of the game. I don't follow recruiting, the draft, and personnel that much, but Alabama doesn't reload perfectly. 2010 is an example of that.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:09 pm to CrimsonChin
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With improved QB play, LSU will be a playoff team next year.
All we need is about 225 passing yards a game with a little higher than 2/1 TD/INT ratio. Granted, that is a not so small improvement for this year but I don't think it isn't reachable. With stronger WR's (don't think they were "bad" this year, but got pushed around a lot) and a good ground attack, I think we should be ok.
Personally, I think we get back to 10+ wins this coming season but to make the playoffs, our QB will have to pull out at least 2 4th quarter wins. We will see...
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