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re: Top 25 Best Defenses of 2015 per SportsOnEarth
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:20 am to cas4t
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:20 am to cas4t
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Actually, they do not. Click the link.
You might as well link Amazon.com along with those....being as they both are completely irrelevant to what stat actually determines which defense was better.
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aww maybe I'll hang around a little longer.
I hope you do. I'm waiting to see you try to justify LSU having a better defense based on yellow being brighter on the color wheel than red and blue...
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Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:21 am to southeasttiger113
Auburn
63rd scoring D
66th total D
69th rush D
70th pass D
5th in INTs
45th FF
42nd in TFL
94th in sacks
108th FR
This data tells me that Auburn lived and died by INTs. Muschamp is not some miracle worker and getting a bunch of transfers and freshman on defense will not turn them around in year one. I can see some improvement, but nowhere near top 25.
63rd scoring D
66th total D
69th rush D
70th pass D
5th in INTs
45th FF
42nd in TFL
94th in sacks
108th FR
This data tells me that Auburn lived and died by INTs. Muschamp is not some miracle worker and getting a bunch of transfers and freshman on defense will not turn them around in year one. I can see some improvement, but nowhere near top 25.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:22 am to pankReb
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You might as well link Amazon.com along with those....being as they both are completely irrelevant to what stat actually determines which defense was better.
says every Ole Miss fan and 0 non Ole Miss fans
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:23 am to Datbayoubengal
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This data tells me that Auburn lived and died by INTs
We died by not having a pass rush, everything crumbled from there. we expect that to change this year
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:23 am to cas4t
so when did the rules change that allowed games to be scored by things other than points?
You constantly claiming others as spinning doesn't change the fact that you've spun more than a Kenmore washer. Also doesn't change the fact that points are the only statistic that determines winners and losers.
You constantly claiming others as spinning doesn't change the fact that you've spun more than a Kenmore washer. Also doesn't change the fact that points are the only statistic that determines winners and losers.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:26 am to cas4t
We had a better rushing defense and scoring defense than you. We had more sacks, TFLs, interceptions, fumbles recovered etc.
He said we had arguably the best defense. We make a pretty good argument. LSU's defense beat us in two stats total and passing defense by margins that are tiny.
He said we had arguably the best defense. We make a pretty good argument. LSU's defense beat us in two stats total and passing defense by margins that are tiny.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:27 am to pankReb
Constantly?
I'm just claiming that you're spinning, man.
I'm using actual Total Defense statistics that are used by every major statistic gathering resource available, including the National Collegiate Athletic Association, which is about as legit as one can get.
I could also show some others like ESPN and even bleacher report if you want examples of some lesser reliable outlets.
I'm just claiming that you're spinning, man.
I'm using actual Total Defense statistics that are used by every major statistic gathering resource available, including the National Collegiate Athletic Association, which is about as legit as one can get.
I could also show some others like ESPN and even bleacher report if you want examples of some lesser reliable outlets.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:28 am to DMagic
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We make a pretty good argument.
I've never denied that. All I've said is that the history books currently and will always have LSU as the #1 rated defense in the SEC for 2014. That is a fact.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:28 am to cas4t
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I'm using actual Total Defense statistics that are used by every major statistic gathering resource available
except for the statistic that determines who wins and loses a game.
You can ignore relevant, statistical proof all that you want....doesn't mean that the bullshite you're trying to spin is correct.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:29 am to cas4t
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I've never denied that. All I've said is that the history books currently and will always have LSU as the #1 rated defense in the SEC for 2014. That is a fact.
Just because you say that is a fact doesn't make that a fact.
I can keep saying the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor and post a movie clip of someone saying that....but it doesn't make that a fact.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:30 am to pankReb
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doesn't mean that the bullshite you're trying to spin is correct.
Yes, the NCAA is bullshite and I'm just spinning.
Even though I've linked multiple statistic outltes that have LSU above OM.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:31 am to cas4t
Number 1 in total defense. One statistic.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:32 am to cas4t
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Yes, the NCAA is bullshite and I'm just spinning.
Even though I've linked multiple statistic outltes that have LSU above OM.
in irrelevant statistics? cool story, bro.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:33 am to pankReb
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Just because you say that is a fact doesn't make that a fact.
Oh I know. My statement means nothing. But I think you forgot about the part where I corroborated my statement with actual ranking from the NCAA, and others.
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I can keep saying the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor and post a movie clip of someone saying that....but it doesn't make that a fact.
Well if you had some actual data to back this up, as I do, then it would be fact. But since you don't....then yes, it's not a fact.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:35 am to cas4t
If you really cared about stats you'd respond to the multiple ones I've posted about that I pulled from your links. I think that proves that we had arguably the best defense.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:37 am to DMagic
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I think that proves that we had arguably the best defense.
Arguably is fine. Argue all you want. But the NCAA and other outlets disagree with your argument. Total D is not an individual stat.
hence the word total.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 11:37 am
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:38 am to cas4t
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use Total Defense as an overall ranking
Sure but that's not where this argument originated is it? You said LSU's defense was better with no qualifiers. Well I've shown plenty of stats that prove otherwise. Continually posting total defense is actually counterproductive to your own argument.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:41 am to cas4t
Total yardage which is an average. That's not the only statistic by which defenses are measured. Like I said the difference is one first down a game and 158 yards total. If you take in how many more plays our defense saw(70) that is actually more impressive for us. Also I dare you to find a team with as bad of TOP as us and with a total defense ranking anywhere near us. Thanks for playing.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:42 am to DMagic
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Sure but that's not where this argument originated is it?
I don't think you even know where this originated. I've not denied anything you've posted. Simply said the history books show LSU as #1 in the SEC for 2014. Only OM fans use Total D as an individual stat, because it suits your argument. Everyone else understands the meaning of the word "total".
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You said LSU's defense was better with no qualifiers
I'm gonna need you to quote me on this.
I've said probably 5 times by now that the history books show LSU as #1. I haven't argued any of your individual stats.
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Continually posting total defense is actually counterproductive to your own argument.
No, it's not. It's the measuring stick used to rank defenses in their totality. It's used everywhere else except Oxford, Mississippi apparently.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 11:44 am
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