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re: Too Early? Iron Bowl and "How Far" Auburn has come

Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:12 pm to
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I understand your reluctance to look at FACTS, but the fact is, AU needed a last second TD to beat an MSU team that is only slightly better than Kentucky. Needed an off week and a pick 6 to beat an OM team that was physically pummeled the week before at Alabama, an injury to JFF to beat TAMU, and were beat down at LSU. Lets not forget Washington St., a REALLY crappy team, was unlucky not to win their game at AU. These are FACTS. Combine these facts, and now, AU fans are talking as if their team is on the same level as Bama. You can only have that attitude if you don't look at FACTS.



LOL about the Ole Miss game, which was a lot closer to a double digit AU win than an Ole Miss win.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:16 pm to
Auburn is good, but a year away from worring about. DWI beer.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79191 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:18 pm to
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And they actually had a very good team that year. This year, not so much. They'll go 5-7



Fine, they also almost lost to Kentucky. Teams improve. That is especially likely in this year, where you have a lot of players who started the year having no idea what winning felt like. Confidence is gained, proficiency in systems increases, it isn't a difficult concept.

Whether that means Auburn will beat Alabama or not is a different matter, but comparing where Auburn likely is now to where they were weeks ago is dumb.

Guess who else has gone from pretty sloppy to very strong over the course of this season?
Posted by stronghouse
Alabama
Member since Aug 2011
908 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:23 pm to
Yes it's too early, but yes Alabama will beat AU handedly. I think AU has a good running game and they have a solid defense line rotation. I just do not think they are going to be able to pass the ball well enough to cause a threat against Alabama. I also do not think their play at linebacker is good enough to stop Alabama's run game.

I hear people say AU is getting better and I agree, but Alabama is getting better as well. The simple fact of adding a healthy Amari Cooper to that team makes it very difficult to defeat them. They will continue to get better as players like OJ Howard and Landon Collins feel more comfortable in their roles.
This post was edited on 11/1/13 at 1:28 pm
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:24 pm to
Auburn has obviously improved from last year but their record is still better than they are.

They've played 4 games that have come down to the last few minutes and last few possesions and are 4-0 in them. Three of those games were against crummy or mediocre opponents.
This post was edited on 11/1/13 at 1:26 pm
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:26 pm to
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I understand your reluctance to look at FACTS, but the fact is, AU needed a last second TD to beat an MSU team that is only slightly better than Kentucky. Needed an off week and a pick 6 to beat an OM team that was physically pummeled the week before at Alabama, an injury to JFF to beat TAMU


Deja Vu
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:27 pm to
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Mississippi State almost beat Auburn..I'm not sure how one escapes from that and becomes suddenly a team that can hang with Alabama


First year watching football?

Never seen a team improve throughout the season?

Transitive property work in football?
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:27 pm to
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Beer Bryant


Are you mentally retarded? I said the rotation has worked very well, especially late in the game, and then you link total defense? .. The does nothing to disprove the d-line rotation being equally strong when swapping personnel.
This post was edited on 11/1/13 at 1:29 pm
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:29 pm to
I like when Beer says that shite because he is literally wrong about his Auburn predictions 75% of the time
Posted by Beer Bryant
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Member since Jan 2012
8792 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:32 pm to
Would actually be fun AU coming into that game 10-1. It's no fun waxing them at their place when their fans were expecting it. They come into that game 10-1 and every barner in that stadium will be thinking they'll win the game. Their tears would be delicious. I don't see them beating UGA, UT at Kneeland is a tossup, and then there's Arky priming for an upset Saturday in hog town.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:33 pm to
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They've played 4 games that have come down to the last few minutes and last few possesions and are 4-0 in them.


What is your point? The 2010 AU team did the same thing(I know, no Cam Newton, but AU is winnning the close ones). People seem to forget that team nearly lost to the Kentuckys of the world.

Previous outcomes do not determine future outcomes in college football, it is not transitive, and yet a lot of Bama fans love to act as if it is. You guys are the fricking world's worse at saying this shite.
This post was edited on 11/1/13 at 1:35 pm
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:34 pm to
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I don't see them beating UGA, UT at Kneeland is a tossup, and then there's Arky priming for an upset Saturday in hog town.


Which is precisely why it will be the exact opposite.
Posted by The Calvin
Member since Jun 2013
5240 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:34 pm to
Cute.

I've already stated that State is not a good team this year. They were much better in 2010.

Again, I am not bashing AU, I just do not think they are as good as their record indicates. They could go 10-2 to 9-3 with the latter being most likely--i think they will lose a close one to UGA and to Alabama.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:38 pm to
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Previous outcomes do not determine future outcomes in college football


This is patently absurd.

They don't guarantee anything, but they do give you a very strong indication of how things will PROBABLY go.

If a team is 0-11 and has lost every game by 50 points, it's safe to say they suck.

OMG past results indicate how good a team are? Wow.

Likewise, going 7-1, dominating stiff competition says one thing about a team.

Going 7-1 and squeaking by weak competition says alot to.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:38 pm to
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Previous outcomes do not determine future outcomes in college football, it is not transitive, and yet a lot of Bama fans love to act as if it is. You guys are the fricking world's worse at saying this shite.



It's not about being transitive. It's about a trend in games against near equal competition. Do you not think every fanbase would be using it against Bama if they played every week like they did against Va Tech? Of course they would, and they'd have a valid point.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:38 pm to
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Beer Bryant


Is Danny Sheridan's retarded brother
Posted by Wallacewade04
Valhalla
Member since Dec 2011
2780 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:39 pm to
yes it is too early

yes Alabama should be favored and will be

let's save this for later
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38015 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:42 pm to
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There is only one common opponent between AU and Arky, and that's TAMU. If JFF doesn't get hurt with a 10 point TAMU lead, TAMU wins that game.




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TAMU intercepted a pass for a pick 6 late in the game against Arky to win that game. Looking at it reasonably, this game will go down to the wire.


Ahhhhhh the ol' Transitive Property of Football. Solid analysis, Einstein.

Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:43 pm to
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Cute.


I guess so.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 11/1/13 at 1:43 pm to
I love the willful ignorance.

If you beat 4 crappy teams by 1 point on a last second FG or in OT it says a lot about your team vs. beating those same 4 crappy teams by 30.

Sure, the record is 4-0 in both cases, but it ain't the damn same when it comes to predicting the future.
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