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re: "To God be the glory"
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:25 pm to cardboardboxer
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:25 pm to cardboardboxer
Yeah. There's a whole lot of high mindedness spewed from the scientific community. They are boastful and quite confident that they are smarter than everybody else, and treat everyone else in conforming fashion. Their fault is operating under the delusion that uneducated = stupid.
Furthermore, the scientific community is targeting the wrong people. The faithful are not the enemy. Those who use religion to control the faithful for their own power are the enemy. The fact that the scientific community fails to see the distinction makes me question their intellectual superiority. So, frick them.
Furthermore, the scientific community is targeting the wrong people. The faithful are not the enemy. Those who use religion to control the faithful for their own power are the enemy. The fact that the scientific community fails to see the distinction makes me question their intellectual superiority. So, frick them.
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Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:28 pm to KaiserSoze99
What specifically do you mean when you say "the scientific community"? Who?
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:38 pm to Teague
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SOME christians trying to undermine the constitution and retard science.
In what way have even a few done this?
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:39 pm to Old Sarge
To get back to Coach Kennedy, I am guessing he's in the Cruz camp then, he who ends each speech with his Jimmy Swaggert best "AND GOD BLESS".
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:45 pm to KaiserSoze99
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NONE of the Gospels were not even written by the people alleged to have written them.
FIFY... It's a fact. Trust me, I grew up in a Southern, Black Christian home and thought I was going to hell when I was honest enough with myself that nothing in the bible seemed even remotely true. I did my homework before "coming out."
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:46 pm to Masterag
Prove this
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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You can believe in the that Jesus was a non-fictional character who physically lived on earth, but you cannot believe that (A) Jesus was a good person spreading a great message and (B) Christianity is a fraud.
Or, which is what I think to be the most plausible, Jesus actually WAS a good person who tried to change the world and the stuff about being the son of God and all the miracle mumbo jumbo was all added after the fact by folks with another agenda.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:52 pm to AstroAg17
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What specifically do you mean when you say "the scientific community"? Who?
The people who hold high-level academic positions who call religious people simple-minded. The people who label those who do not accept the theory of evolution as an absolute refutation of all religious beliefs as "simple-minded."
Ironically, many of the high-minded science snobs are the same people who buy into man-made global warming without even bothering to consider and question the conclusions, even in the face of obvious fraud and unreliably results.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:53 pm to Masterag
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Or, which is what I think to be the most plausible, Jesus actually WAS a good person who tried to change the world and the stuff about being the son of God and all the miracle mumbo jumbo was all added after the fact by folks with another agenda.
...which, given the nature of charlatans and their victims, is entirely plausible.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:57 pm to Old Sarge
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Prove this
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this is a Christian article, so they have no reason to lie. They give you dates of authorship, earliest being at least 20 years after Jesus allegedly died, though they do claim authorship being dictated or written by eyewitnesses. Which begs the question, why would somebody wait 20 years to write about some crazy arse shite like that? We all know eyewitness accounts often can't be relied upon in the best case circumstances 20 min after the fact, let alone 20 years. Even you can admit that if you saw some unbelievable stuff going on you wouldn't way that long to tell someone about it.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 4:04 pm to Masterag
There is nothing in that that proves this statement you made 
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quote: NONE of the Gospels were not even written by the people alleged to have written them.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 4:06 pm to Masterag
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stuff going on you wouldn't way that long to tell someone about it.
Christianity and the story of Christs miracles spread BECAUSE no one waited to share it
Posted on 3/21/16 at 4:18 pm to Old Sarge
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Christianity and the story of Christs miracles spread BECAUSE no one waited to share it
I would argue that early Christianity spread on the same principal that helped Facebook spread at first- exclusivity. Romans admired the bravery that the early Christians showed when they faced got eaten by lions, and they admired how the Christians could believe so strongly in a single god. To the Romans their gods had almost turned into the equivalent of modern celebrities- worshipped and discussed but not believed in. In comparison the worship of the Christian god was very intense, as was the behavior of early Christians who for example refused to indulge in basic earthly pleasures like bathing.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 5:12 pm to cardboardboxer
Christianity is popular because it feeds on two very basic things that almost all humans share in common, fear and the desire to be right.
Fear of the afterlife and the unexplained is documented nearly as far back as we can trace humans. The idea of two afterlives so polar opposite in destination, one being eternal suffering, the other eternal paradise, that hinge on the single decision of one's belief is the scariest thing that I can imagine facing in our some 80 years on this planet.
The same can be said of basically every human being.
The Bible being the self validating piece of literature that it is, can assure you that your belief is the correct one simply because it says so. If you "believe" hard enough you can even FEEL conversations with God or Jesus taking place.
Non-believers or skeptics can rain your parade all they want because they will be punished eternally for it. People of other faiths like Islam or Buddhism will do the same. Why? Because they're wrong, and you are right.
Even though "conversations with God, Allah, Buddha, etc." are not exclusive to the Christian religion. A Muslim believes what he believes for the same reasons you believe what you chose. He uses his eternal fate to justify his actions and belief. He uses his conversations with his God to do the same. He is convinced, just as you are, that HE is right!
But alas, only one of you can spend eternity not being tortured.
It's too bad that he was born on the other side of the world completely by circumstance to parents who introduced him to his religion. A story similar to most every Christian I know.
Replace Muslim with Buddhist, Jew, and any other religion and realize that it is all still true.
People fear death.
Until religion tells them they don't have to.
Because they are right, and everyone else is wrong.
Fear of the afterlife and the unexplained is documented nearly as far back as we can trace humans. The idea of two afterlives so polar opposite in destination, one being eternal suffering, the other eternal paradise, that hinge on the single decision of one's belief is the scariest thing that I can imagine facing in our some 80 years on this planet.
The same can be said of basically every human being.
The Bible being the self validating piece of literature that it is, can assure you that your belief is the correct one simply because it says so. If you "believe" hard enough you can even FEEL conversations with God or Jesus taking place.
Non-believers or skeptics can rain your parade all they want because they will be punished eternally for it. People of other faiths like Islam or Buddhism will do the same. Why? Because they're wrong, and you are right.
Even though "conversations with God, Allah, Buddha, etc." are not exclusive to the Christian religion. A Muslim believes what he believes for the same reasons you believe what you chose. He uses his eternal fate to justify his actions and belief. He uses his conversations with his God to do the same. He is convinced, just as you are, that HE is right!
But alas, only one of you can spend eternity not being tortured.
It's too bad that he was born on the other side of the world completely by circumstance to parents who introduced him to his religion. A story similar to most every Christian I know.
Replace Muslim with Buddhist, Jew, and any other religion and realize that it is all still true.
People fear death.
Until religion tells them they don't have to.
Because they are right, and everyone else is wrong.
This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 3/21/16 at 5:15 pm to SoberAg
Lots of personal opinions in there fella
Posted on 3/21/16 at 5:19 pm to SoberAg
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He uses his conversations with his God to do the same
It's actually the same God. The God of Abraham. Jews, Muslims and Christians all believe in the same God.
The beliefs in the afterlife and the routes taken are the difference.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 5:24 pm to Old Sarge
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Lots of personal opinions in there fella
Correct, and ones that I feel are as relevant as anything you have said in this thread.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 5:37 pm to Tecate
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It's actually the same God. The God of Abraham. Jews, Muslims and Christians all believe in the same God. The beliefs in the afterlife and the routes taken are the difference.
Then the amount of animosity between those three sects is hilarious.
The fact there is so much historical feuding between them further proves my point about the desire to be right.
All have books and scriptures that do nothing but validate how right they are, and how wrong everyone else is. Not to mention the rewards and punishments for said beliefs.
Which gets back to my point about fear...
Posted on 3/21/16 at 5:54 pm to SoberAg
Only one centers around Gods son who actually died and rose again before many witnesses.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 5:55 pm to Old Sarge
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To God be the glory
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