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Thoughts on the future of LSU with Coach O and his staff?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:36 pm
Specifically, what changes do you think we will see in how LSU plays, their performance and their overall program as Coach O continues to make it his own and drift away from Les Miles' era and ideas?
I think that LSU will continue signing great athletes, will be very good on defense and at the very least be solid on offense. O hired a staff full of both very good recruiters and good teachers, highly respected guys. I think that he has a chance to be more like Dabo Swinney than some other guys who have crashed and burned when given the reigns. I for sure think he has learned from his training experiment at Ole Miss.
What I don't know is if he will be a good CEO and program manager. I think time will only tell with that. However, strictly with the football, I think that with Canada and Aranda that LSU will be a very solid, well coached teams in the years to come.
I really don't see a crash and burn there, at all. But I've been wrong before.
I think that LSU will continue signing great athletes, will be very good on defense and at the very least be solid on offense. O hired a staff full of both very good recruiters and good teachers, highly respected guys. I think that he has a chance to be more like Dabo Swinney than some other guys who have crashed and burned when given the reigns. I for sure think he has learned from his training experiment at Ole Miss.
What I don't know is if he will be a good CEO and program manager. I think time will only tell with that. However, strictly with the football, I think that with Canada and Aranda that LSU will be a very solid, well coached teams in the years to come.
I really don't see a crash and burn there, at all. But I've been wrong before.
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You couldn't ask this question in your other thread?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I think he's going to be successful. He recruits his arse off and the players love him. If he lets Aranda and Canada do their jobs then they will be very good. O is the perfect guy for LSU.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Full steam ahead with the LSU threads
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:43 pm to Magician2
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You couldn't ask this question in your other thread?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:44 pm to hg
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Full steam ahead with the LSU threads
And?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:46 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The refs are going to get real sick of Coach O yaw yawing at them since he doesn't coach offense or defense.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:48 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Nice topic.
I think O will let Canada open up the offense more, and not just more downfield passing. Ensminger is still on staff, and he was the OC during Coach O's run last year.
Though he averaged over 40 points and 600 yards against every opponent not named Bama or Florida, Ensminger seemingly disappointed against those two.
I hope they utitilize the four 6'4" or taller receivers we have as well as the TE.
Aranda is a gold mine. I think we just reload with him.
Coach O is a great recruiter and motivator; and although he's considered a players' coach, I think he will instill discipline where needed.
I think he's surrounded himself with a potentially very good staff, it's up to him to be the 'CEO' so to speak.
Canada is really a breath of fresh air. O let Ensminger run the offense last year, he should do the same with Canada.
In 'OCanadAranda' we have a pretty promising triumvirate; not to mention Williams and Thomas from USC and Mickey Joseph.
People forget Coach Orgeron has 30+ years of experience, a Master's, and has been a head coach before. Even he has said he's learned from his past mistakes and emphasized his positives.
Time will tell.
I think O will let Canada open up the offense more, and not just more downfield passing. Ensminger is still on staff, and he was the OC during Coach O's run last year.
Though he averaged over 40 points and 600 yards against every opponent not named Bama or Florida, Ensminger seemingly disappointed against those two.
I hope they utitilize the four 6'4" or taller receivers we have as well as the TE.
Aranda is a gold mine. I think we just reload with him.
Coach O is a great recruiter and motivator; and although he's considered a players' coach, I think he will instill discipline where needed.
I think he's surrounded himself with a potentially very good staff, it's up to him to be the 'CEO' so to speak.
Canada is really a breath of fresh air. O let Ensminger run the offense last year, he should do the same with Canada.
In 'OCanadAranda' we have a pretty promising triumvirate; not to mention Williams and Thomas from USC and Mickey Joseph.
People forget Coach Orgeron has 30+ years of experience, a Master's, and has been a head coach before. Even he has said he's learned from his past mistakes and emphasized his positives.
Time will tell.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:49 pm to Iron Lion
quote:I don't, they hired on the cheap.
I think he's going to be successful
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Outside of MAYBE Jimbo Fisher while still being realistic, there was no better choice for LSU than Ed Orgeron. It's clear that he is letting his staff do their jobs, Canada in particular. This is the first time in 10+ years where we know for sure that the offense will be different, much different. Whether that translates to more productivity, we shall see.
Solid analysis, OP.
Solid analysis, OP.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:50 pm to TT9
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I think he's going to be successful
I don't, they hired on the cheap.
And in return, locked up what most consider to be 2 of the top coordinators in college football.
But, carry on..
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Future: Undefeated against A&M until they fire Dumbass Sumlin.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:53 pm to NFLSU
quote:whatever you gotta tell yourself to make the hiring of lOl look good.
locked up what most consider to be 2 of the top coordinators in college football.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:54 pm to NFLSU
The "manage the program and let coordinators do their jobs" style has worked very well for Dabo at Clemson. He sells the program, is the face, recruits like hell, hires good people and lets them work.
I think that Coach O is on a similar track.
I think that Coach O is on a similar track.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:57 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Surely Ed learned a lesson or two in his travels. Hell, he sat there on staff and watched Les Miles act like a puppet master with the LSU offense for years and saw what happened.
The "manage the program and let coordinators do their jobs" style has worked very well for Dabo at Clemson. He sells the program, is the face, recruits like hell, hires good people and lets them work.
I think that Coach O is on a similar track.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:59 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The energy is completely different which is a major difference compared to Miles. I used to attend practices that could've put some to sleep. Those days are over.
He's also reignited the alumni base with open arms, allowing previous players to attend practice, talk to the team, Tiger Walk on gameday, etc.
He's done all the right things so far..but until he wins the first game in November, whether fair or not, the seat will be warm.
He's also reignited the alumni base with open arms, allowing previous players to attend practice, talk to the team, Tiger Walk on gameday, etc.
He's done all the right things so far..but until he wins the first game in November, whether fair or not, the seat will be warm.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 5:01 pm to NFLSU
Yea - I think the jury is out whether he can get LSU back to an elite National Title conversation most years level, but the idea that LSU is going to keep/start going 8-4 every year just doesn't make much sense.
Will still have Top 5 talent, will have one elite coordinator and one pretty good coordinator, will have good position coaches, etc.
Whether he gets it over the top remains to be seen, but the combinations of those factors will have LSU solid to elite most years IMHO.
Will still have Top 5 talent, will have one elite coordinator and one pretty good coordinator, will have good position coaches, etc.
Whether he gets it over the top remains to be seen, but the combinations of those factors will have LSU solid to elite most years IMHO.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 5:20 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Who will Bama hire for OC?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 5:22 pm to tigercreole
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Who will Bama hire for OC?
Alabama hired Brian Daboll from the Patriots as OC
Posted on 3/15/17 at 5:28 pm to tigercreole
Doesn't matter, we have the best HC in the country, you guy's hired a circus clown.
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