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Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:38 pm to DorchesterGamecock
Meh. If this is true then Richt needs to be fired immediately for underachievement. if Auburn at No.15 can win a NC and play for another one in 4 years and UGA cant sniff the arse end of one since the early 80's...and UGA is No.3 on this list...
Then either list is shite...or Mark Richt is.
Then either list is shite...or Mark Richt is.
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:39 pm to randomways
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Tennessee's problems are a bit more nebulous and harder to pinpoint.
I really think it's simple. We had a horrible AD that made a hire that bit him in the face. Then turned around and hired a complete joke of a coach. The combination of these two things caused great instability and caused a huge number of players to leave the program.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:41 pm to molsusports
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Name the programs with more advantages and a comparable road to winning a NC.
There are none definitively better. You can make an argument for Southern Cal, tOSU, and FSU being comparable but they have advantages over each of those programs.
If it was so easy to win there, they'd have had more than 2 coaches with success over the past 100 years. Just saying. I think they're overrated considering how many D1 programs are within Texas that compete for recruits. Jobs like LSU are easier to win at, IMO.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:45 pm to BigOrangeBri
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I really think it's simple. We had a horrible AD that made a hire that bit him in the face. Then turned around and hired a complete joke of a coach. The combination of these two things caused great instability and caused a huge number of players to leave the program.
Well, when you put it that way, it does seem pretty simple.
Though, to be fair, Fulmer was starting to get uneven results with terrible seasons mixed in with mediocre and good ones toward the end. Kiffin actually did respectably, given the circumstances. We all know now that he wasn't HC material, but that doesn't change the fact that he managed to semi-salvage what could have been a complete disaster of a season. So the question I have is whether Fulmer was slipping personally or whether other factors were involved?
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:47 pm to Bham4Tide
Well, when I. Was in school A&M was top dog... Since scholarship limits the two main schools in Texas are pretty even. Now add the SEC to the equation, and the facilities and such. A&M is. Becoming the Oregon of the South.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:47 pm to randomways
Fulmer got lazy, and chavis and cutcliffe left.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:48 pm to ColoradoAg
Texas a&m can't be the Oregon of the south. You're sponsored by Adidas
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:49 pm to VFL1800FPD
Exactly. We're THE adidas school. They've done a good job with A&M gear, surprisingly.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:49 pm to Bham4Tide
Tennessee is the Nebraska of the south, both have a rich football history and both have been shoved aside over the past two decades due to changing demographics and shifts in regional power. The difference between the two is that Tennessee is still located in a football hotbed and can recover, whereas I seriously wonder whether or not Nebraska can ever return to what they once were.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:51 pm to VFL1800FPD
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Texas a&m can't be the Oregon of the south. You're sponsored by Adidas
That's kinda the point. Just like Nike has gone all in on Oregon, A&M is currently Adidas' darling. They currently pay us more per year than they do any other school that uses them, including Notre Dame and Michigan.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:53 pm to Mirthomatic
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And we're destroying Stoops and OU, as well. All they did recently was post an 11-2 season and embarrass Bama in a BCS bowl.
We are ranked in the top 5 going into this season and are poised to make the playoff. A&M will be lucky to make a bowl game
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:53 pm to Roger Klarvin
I don't know about two whole decades. From 1994-2001 were some of our best times in history, and we won the east as recently as 07. Our decline has been less gradual than Nebraska.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:55 pm to Govt Tide
quote:Actually I didn't think that at all. Obviously I can't speak for everyone but it was clearly apparent Shula was not the answer in the long term given the circumstances. Most reasonable people would probably say that.
Funny how you guys didn't find that viewpoint myopic when you were blasting Alabama for firing Shula only a season removed from a 10 win season.
It's not much different than Auburn's situation. Sometimes, though, you end up hiring the wrong replacement. Tennessee is currently suffering through the consequences of their mistakes. Sometimes the idea is better in theory, and largely depends on who is available at the time. Auburn and Alabama both got lucky with their hires.
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:56 pm to Ostrich
How's y'all's recruiting? You think that is sustainable? LOL
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:58 pm to VFL1800FPD
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Fulmer got lazy, and chavis and cutcliffe left.
Ah, dammit, I'd forgotten about Cutcliffe. Which is strange, because with a couple obvious exceptions, there's not a coach in CFB I admire more than Cutcliffe. Yeah, I can totally buy that being a huge factor in the recent decline. Frankly, I think y'all should have gotten him instead of Butch. Nothing against Butch, but Cutcliffe is an amazing game coach. Whether he's a good enough recruiter to bring UT's program back, I couldn't say, so maybe that's why he wasn't at the top of the list.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:58 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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How's y'all's recruiting? You think that is sustainable? LOL
OU has never lead in recruiting rankings
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
Notre dame already bailed to under armor, and lot of people think Michigan is going to opt out of their contract with Nike after the 2016 season because of the sweatshop thing. We're switching to Nike after this season. Y'all might be the only major program to use Adidas soon.
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