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re: The lack of a running game versus Auburn. LSU fans.

Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:40 am to
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24702 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:40 am to
Plenty of coaches coach "not to lose" with great success. This is Les's method. He does very, very well with it.

I have a big OSU fan in my office. He used to get upset with Tressel every week.

Good to see everyone thinks LSU "beat" themselves to only win by 2 with no credit going to Auburn. Well, a few of you said Auburn played "inspired" or we "showed up". I think "inspired" means we played above our ability, while "showed up" means we played the way we are capable of playing. I hope it's the latter. (sorry for the quick hijack there)
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 9:44 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:42 am to
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a much better DL/LB/DB team


UK ran for 160 against your DL and LBs
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34846 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:43 am to
I cant understand why anyone thinks LSU didnt run well. The SECrant knows damn good and well that spencer ware is LSUs #4 RB and he's overrated. He avg 5.6 per carry.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:43 am to
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LSU just had too many mistakes at crucial times that kept them from scoring more points. 180 yards rushing is pretty damn strong. It was the lack of converting on the pass plays, penalties and turnovers that hurt LSU.


I expect them to be as generous in 2 weeks, minus the 180 yds rushing...we need to hold them to 150 and or under....it can be done....max effort. But serving up three turnovers would be nice.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:44 am to
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But serving up three turnovers would be nice.

I beg to differ
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68296 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:46 am to
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We rushed for over 180 yards



This, what lack of running game? The running game was what was moving the offense consistently when we did move.

The 3 RBs combined for 34 carries for 171 yards (over 5 yards a carry)
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25094 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:48 am to
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- How good is LSU OL run blocking? Hard to say
when they have played crap teams so far. Finally played an SEC team and had only an avg night(4ypc)


Wow, tough words. How would you rate a 3.3 ypc performance against a team that plays in the Sun Belt?

Troll.
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 9:49 am
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:48 am to
9 penalties and 3 turnovers makes it almost impossible to shine. Kudos to AU for playing hard and being the source of much of this. LSU simply needs to clean this up.
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 9:50 am
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:50 am to
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spacewrangler

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I thought LSU ran the ball pretty good vs Au. LSU just had too many mistakes at crucial times that kept them from scoring more points. 180 yards rushing is pretty damn strong. It was the lack of converting on the pass plays, penalties and turnovers that hurt LSU.

^This. 'Nuff said.
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9746 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:12 am to
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9 penalties and 3 turnovers makes it almost impossible to shine



Penalties can kill drives; How many were on the offense? I just seemed like everytime LSU got rolling...BAM...FLAG...or...Oh shite...Fumble. Au did play pretty good at times and made some of the stops but it was clear that LSU was a much better team. OK teams have bad nights and lose, good teams have bad nights and win.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6543 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:14 am to
Auburn's super bowl. It is the only explanation.
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:15 am to
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spacewrangler
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Penalties can kill drives; How many were on the offense? I just seemed like everytime LSU got rolling...BAM...FLAG...or...Oh shite...Fumble.
No doubt about it.
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Au did play pretty good at times and made some of the stops
Yes they did, they were at home with their backs against the wall
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it was clear that LSU was a much better team. OK teams have bad nights and lose, good teams have bad nights and win.
Thank you Sir. Somebody gets it.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:54 am to
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That will never change.

Considering he is LSU's winningest coach by win%, and is currently the winningest BCS coach since he got to LSU, I'm going to say I'm fine with it...
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He'd rather lose

...because he doesn't seem to be doing a whole lot of that at LSU.
Posted by fan251
Mobile, AL
Member since Jun 2011
857 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:55 am to
It's simple really: Auburn was DESPERATE and LSU played its worst game of the season.

LSU looked sloppy and undisciplined. This was the exact type of game that Bama & UT played a few years back.

The question is, how does LSU respond now that they are getting in the meat of their schedule.

Every team each year has that one "awful" game that either they lost or could have lost.

LSU will be fine; however, the UF vs LSU game with tell all.
Posted by TigerinSC
SOUTH CAROLINA
Member since Aug 2010
1746 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 11:15 am to
I understand that there was a "similarity" between this game and '09 Bama/UT BUT in no way, shape or fashion is this years LSU squad even remotely close to that Bama team! Bama got by UT barely, yes, but they also beat a GA team that was #2 in the country and a VERY good Fla. team. I think we have a good team but no where close to that Bama squad.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
60584 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 11:26 am to
Les miles coached exactly like Sana coaches when he isn't sure what he has at qb...get a lead and sit on it, hope your defense wins the game and let a shitty team hang around
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89500 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 11:36 am to
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Good to see everyone thinks LSU "beat" themselves to only win by 2 with no credit going to Auburn.


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Well, a few of you said Auburn played "inspired" or we "showed up". I think "inspired" means we played above our ability, while "showed up" means we played the way we are capable of playing. I hope it's the latter.


Dan, I'm trying to work with you here - there was some uncomfortable chatter from posters, including, most disturbingly for you, a few Auburn fans. I asked point blank: "Either beating Auburn in Jordan-Hare is a challenge and doing so is worthy of accolades, or it isn't, and therefore a problem if it was difficult to win by 2 points. Which is it?"

In my earlier post when I described what happened, from a score standpoint, and indicated the play of the game, minus those two fumbles, was more consistent with a 20-3 score. The play was, and had that been the final score, people would not be as dismissive.

We won despite our poor execution and yes, despite Auburn's great defensive play. Auburn, conversely kept the game close by exploiting our mistakes/turnovers/penalties... ALL of that is part of football. Auburn's offense played much worse than LSU's offense, but scored the same points. Football is about points.

Had we lost, with a nearly identical box score, I would not be here arguing that we actually won (for which fans of another school located in Alabama are famous), when we lost. Coincidentally, as their coach once said after a miracle ending to a Kentucky game, "Do you think you beat them, or did you just win a football game?"

I think we beat Auburn AND won the football game - we just didn't win the football game by very much.
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 11:37 am
Posted by 11thACR
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Mar 2012
1652 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 11:52 am to
WOW...yes that is what happened...Why did it happen is the Question ???
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22329 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 11:54 am to
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Wow, tough words. How would you rate a 3.3 ypc performance against a team that plays in the Sun Belt?
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
8305 posts
Posted on 9/25/12 at 12:18 pm to
I think it was an overall bad game against SEC talent. 9 Penalties for 90 yards with 4 of them personal files at critical times. An Oline trying to find its way after the loss of its best lineman, Chris Faulk, Met not running all the way to an open first down twice making it 4th down when it should have been 1st and 10. Not opening up the offense like Bama has been willing to do and the recognition that we are on the road in a close game, playing it close to the vest with Met so as not give the big mistake late in the game. Reminded me of the Auburn game a few years ago with Jamarcus. Played conservative the whole game and then finally let him throw it down field but by then it was really too little too late. Give Auburn credit. They showed up, backs to the wall and played inspired football and took advantage of what the game presented to them.
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