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re: The Alabama BOT isn't scared of competing with UAB on the field

Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:50 pm to
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Do you have any evidence of this whatsoever? Anything?



Like I said, there is an article from AL.com yesterday laying out this concept, which I think is pretty compelling and matches up with everything I've ever heard on the subject. AL.com isn't generally an anti-Alabama publication, not that it publishes this information as factual.

Anyway, no, I don't have any hard evidence that one or more individuals with grudges ultimately led to the demise of UAB football. I do think it's pretty widely accepted that the BOT has hindered a lot of UAB's ambitions in the past, perhaps for good reason, perhaps not.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:51 pm to
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but you could certainly apply your argument to the majority of programs and every school in the country.


I'll be lambasted for this, but I don't think that athletics should have anything to do with academia. That's a tough sell, considering the long history in America, but it's pretty fricking retarded to run athletic departments at a loss. Club style sports, as in some parts of Europe, would ensure that the market dictates what can survive.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:53 pm to
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So it's just your supposition and you have no proof of this. Okay.



Not just mine. How would I have proof of this?

I'm fine with people like yourself saying "yeah, I'll choose to believe the official story from UAB." I'm not invested enough to try and convince you of anything. But a lot of folks think Paul has a grudge against UAB, there has been some anecdotal/situational evidence of that over the years, and there are plenty of questions about the decision to end the program that could support that theory.

Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:55 pm to
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I'll be lambasted for this, but I don't think that athletics should have anything to do with academia. That's a tough sell, considering the long history in America, but it's pretty fricking retarded to run athletic departments at a loss. Club style sports, as in some parts of Europe, would ensure that the market dictates what can survive.



Depends. It's hard to step back from what collegiate athletics has become and view how unsuccessful (or unproductive) athletic programs may add to the fabric of an institution. Honestly, I have trouble doing it even in an abstract sense. We're that far removed from days when athletic programs were integral parts of the school accessible to all/most students, at least at large schools, I mean.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:57 pm to
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I think the idea that UAB football was ended on account of a decades old grudge isn't far fetched.
If there is such a grudge, and it is decades old, how did the football program ever come to be, and how has it lasted so long being financed the entire time by the people holding the grudge? If UAB wants a football program, let all of these devastated supporters step up and make it happen.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:58 pm to
I just don't see how it would be changed, unfortunately.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 4:01 pm to
Please UA makes enough money off parking tickets on thier own students to fund that football program
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 5:42 pm to
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I don't have any interest in UAB at all. I graduated from Auburn and UGA, and while I dislike Alabama, I'm not some crusader in this fight.


I wasn't targeting you with my statement, I meant the general "you" and it just so happened yours was the most recent post when I started mine. I actually think you're one of the more rational ones in this thread.
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