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re: The Alabama BOT isn't scared of competing with UAB on the field

Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by Aman
Alabama
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:26 pm to
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band members lose there scholarships and so do cheerleaders


No they don't.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:27 pm to
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There's statistical evidence that it does in the SEC, but I'm gonna refrain from comparing Apples to Oranges


Yea, good move, because that is about the most apples to oranges comparison you could ever make.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:27 pm to
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Good thing ol' Jewnyah fricked up for them


Do you honestly think that guy has ever done anything to actually help or support UAB? Serious question.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:27 pm to
alabama expert ole miss fan. diaf
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:28 pm to
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Which is what they should throw all their weight behind now.


So I guess the board will now decide the two should play each other in basketball. There's no reason they shouldn't now.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:28 pm to
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Do you honestly think that guy has ever done anything to actually help or support UAB? Serious question.





As much or more than 95% of UAB students and alums have, yes.

And if they don't care, emotionally or financially, who exactly does? Other than sportswriters looking for a story with Bahr Jrs son as the hook or fans of programs that spend their days looking for ways to paint Alabama as pure evil? Hmm?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:29 pm to
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Do you honestly think that guy has ever done anything to actually help or support UAB? Serious question.



I don't know, and frankly I do not care.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:29 pm to
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So I guess the board will now decide the two should play each other in basketball. There's no reason they shouldn't now.


I have always thought we should play in basketball. I think our basketball program looks scared and weak when they refuse to. And if UAB put everything they had behind basketball they could become at worst one of 3 equals and at best the most exciting game in town.

We play them home and away in baseball every year.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79191 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:30 pm to
For which part? The AL.com article that came out yesterday lays out the history as I know it in pretty bare fashion.

I don't think there is any dispute that you could come up with an economic basis for ending UAB football. Of course, you could do that for the majority of collegiate sports program in the country. But this decision wasn't the response to some crisis, nor did it arrive out of thin air.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:31 pm to
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Best season in a decade and they can pull peak 30k in a metro of 1,313,105 that has the righest ratings for CFB viewership.


Ticket sales lag behind results. People don't buy tickets for this year's success. They buy next years tickets based on this year's success.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:31 pm to
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For which part? The AL.com article that came out yesterday lays out the history as I know it in pretty bare fashion.

I don't think there is any dispute that you could come up with an economic basis for ending UAB football. Of course, you could do that for the majority of collegiate sports program in the country. But this decision wasn't the response to some crisis, nor did it arrive out of thin air.


If it was all about $$$ half the SEC would be shutdown and there would only be 22 teams playing football.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79191 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:31 pm to
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And if they don't care, emotionally or financially, who exactly does? Other than sportswriters looking for a story with Bahr Jrs son as the hook or fans of programs that spend their days looking for ways to paint Alabama as pure evil? Hmm?



Being honest, I don't think you or most UA people care whether UAB survives or not (I mean that in a neutral, non-pejorative way).

But personally, do you think UAB football is ending simply because someone decided they should do a cost/benefit analysis and projection and it came out negatively? I highly doubt you do.
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
6466 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:32 pm to
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My sister 





Nudes or you made her up to try and prove a point.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5152 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:32 pm to
Then what do you think motivated it? Clearly UAB is not competing with Bama football, either on the field or financially. The assertion that it was motivated by fear is ridiculous trolling on par with the religious belief some have in the REC conspiracy.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:32 pm to
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Ticket sales lag behind results. People don't buy tickets for this year's success. They buy next years tickets based on this year's success.


Interesting, must be why UAB had such great ticket sales during the early 2000's when they went 7-4, 6-5, 5-7, 5-7, 7-5 and went to their first bowl game.

Actually, they didn't. Nobody went. Nobody cared.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79191 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:33 pm to
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If it was all about $$$ half the SEC would be shutdown and there would only be 22 teams playing football.



Exactly. Even looking at particular challenges confronting UAB, I haven't seen any compelling argument for this coming to fruition.

If I was bowling I'd really be pissed. They're just thrown in for garnish.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79191 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:35 pm to
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Then what do you think motivated it? Clearly UAB is not competing with Bama football, either on the field or financially. The assertion that it was motivated by fear is ridiculous trolling on par with the religious belief some have in the REC conspiracy.



I don't think it was fear, I think it was grudges and resentment. I don't think Bama likes competition, and I don't mean that in the sense that UAB is legitimate competition, I just don't think they like having an entity feeding on it that doesn't revere it or follow it without question.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55448 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:35 pm to
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Ticket sales lag behind results. People don't buy tickets for this year's success. They buy next years tickets based on this year's success.



As someone said earlier, they could give away tickets and not pull 45k.

I don't know if you've ever been to Alabama for a significant amount of time. Other than some students, very few people in the state give a flying rat frick about UAB football.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:35 pm to
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Being honest, I don't think you or most UA people care whether UAB survives or not (I mean that in a neutral, non-pejorative way).

But personally, do you think UAB football is ending simply because someone decided they should do a cost/benefit analysis and projection and it came out negatively? I highly doubt you do.


You are right, I really don't "care" either way. I think that long-term, if they devote whatever they are doing in football monetarily to basketball this will be a huge win for UAB. And I think that is a very legitimate argument from about 3-4 different angles. They could capture the state in basketball. They will never be anything but a commuter program playing in the netherworlds of small D1 in the shadow of the SEC (specifically UA and AU) in football.

I think that UAB football is ending because (a) yes, (b) when the idea started being floated the only people who seemed to care were ppl like Tim Brando and Greg Doyell, and their believe that nobody at UAB really care a rats arse was confirmed and (c) I'm guessing this doesn't hurt some people's feelings who have always hated Gene Bartow and UAB athletics for the things he said about Bryant and Sanderson and the way they started their programs.

I think it is a combination of all 3. And I think in the long run, if they do it right, it will benefit them.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5152 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:36 pm to
What was UAB's record last year? Who is their starting quarterback? Who is their head coach? How many bowl games have they reached?

If you can answer any of these off the top of your head, I'll legitimately believe you have at least some interest in UAB. Most of you probably couldn't even tell me the team name before the thing was shut down. Just an opportunity to criticize Bama.
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