Started By
Message
re: That Ray hit was Quinton Dial-esque,
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:32 am to RandySavage
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:32 am to RandySavage
quote:
One of us must be blind then because it looks blatantly obvious to me.
It was blatant. Murray floated toward the play and got hit. Hate it for him. Maybe he should have floated to his sideline. Or wore a yellow jersey that signifies he couldn't be hit. Otherwise, he got what he got. Clean hit.
0
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:32 am to RandySavage
You may be right 
I'm honestly not being biased here and may be wrong. Maybe I'm just a dumbass.
I'm honestly not being biased here and may be wrong. Maybe I'm just a dumbass.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:37 am to RandySavage
Dial led with his shoulder and its not even debate able. Was it dirty? Maybe, but definately legal.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:39 am to RandySavage
It's only not obvious to Alabama fans
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:40 am to RandySavage
quote:was incidental, leads with his shoulder first and the helmet contact is secondary. they only real possible penalty would maybe be unnecessary roughness, but murray was within range of the runner and moving to intercept, so he was fair game
Dude look at the crown of his helmet smash Murray's facemask.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:42 am to narddogg81
Incidental contact *wink*
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:43 am to DMagic
quote:
It's only not obvious to Alabama fans
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:43 am to justausedcarguy
quote:
Dial led with his shoulder
So did the Ohio state WR on Saturday, still got ejected for targeting
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:44 am to bhamtbone
There's nothing to discuss. Dial led with the shoulder. The helmets contacting is incidental to that fact, but there's no real debate that the shoulder was intended to be the initial point of contact. Murray was not a "defenseless" player, nor was he acting as quarterback at the time. He was a legitimate target with a legitimate right to tackle the person with the ball. It wouldn't be anything resembling "targeting" by current standards, let alone back then. It was a hard block against a legitimate target while the ball was still live. Anyone who doesn't know that needs to brush up on their football rules, because that's as clear-cut as it comes.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:44 am to RandySavage
Ray initiates contact in the chest. Was the ejection confirmed or did the call on the field stand?
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:48 am to randomways
quote:
KEY ELEMENTS Target—to take aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with an apparent intent that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Crown of the Helmet—the top portion of the helmet. Contact to the head or neck area—not only with the helmet, but also with the forearm, fist, elbow, or shoulder—these can all lead to a foul. Defenseless player—a player not in position to defend himself. Examples (Rule 2-27-14): A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass. A receiver attempting to catch a pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier. A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return. A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick. A player on the ground. A player obviously out of the play. A player who receives a blind-side block. A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped.
yep, murray not defenseless player. sims was the definition of a defenseless player on that hit.
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 11:50 am
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:51 am to narddogg81
I don't think Ray should have been ejected. I hate what football has become.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:55 am to SoFla Tideroller
quote:yeah. its been weakened for sure. 80% of what defeses did 10 years ago is a penalty now and most of the great hard-hitting safeties of the past would get ejected from every modern game. Its part of the reason why offensive production has exploded, the defense is handcuffed
I don't think Ray should have been ejected. I hate what football has become.
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 11:57 am
Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:07 pm to T1gerWonder
quote:
Dial led with his shoulder
quote:
So did the Ohio state WR on Saturday, still got ejected for targeting
Dial was blocking a defender on the interception return, not going after a defenseless player.
Targeting....know the rules.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:17 pm to justausedcarguy
Two year old butthurt FTW.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:23 pm to justausedcarguy
quote:
Dial was blocking a defender on the interception return, not going after a defenseless player.
Targeting....know the rules.
Lol, these are my favorite type of posts. Nothing funnier than an arrogant moron.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:07 pm to ACL11190
quote:
maybe I'm blind but that looks like a textbook block. the fact that it's a qb is irrelevant.
you are blind and dumb...textbook targeting...key word being defenseless and yes he would have been ejected for that now
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:08 pm to Cruiserhog
How was he defenseless?
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:08 pm to asphinctersayswhat
quote:You serious? Yes. Ohio state had a player ejected for it, Uk had a player ejected for it, etc.....
Do they or have they ever called targeting on a block?
Posted on 12/8/14 at 1:10 pm to justausedcarguy
quote:Not in todays rules. 100% targeting, easy call. Look up the uk block against Lsu and Ohio st vs wisconsin. If helmets touch after a blindside block you gone.
Dial led with his shoulder and its not even debate able. Was it dirty? Maybe, but definately legal.
Page 2 of 5
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News