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re: That other Mississippi school joining AAC?

Posted on 3/13/16 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 3/13/16 at 12:40 pm to
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Gotta applaud Alabama for playing in-state schools

Uh, no. Bama will not play in-state schools. No UAB, South Alabama, Troy, Jax State, or Samford. I believe Auburn has played everyone of those except maybe USA.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 12:52 pm to
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LSU doesn't play Tulane anymore


Yeah LSU last played Tulane in football in 2009, but there were discussions to open the season against each other in the Superdome last season...

LSU, Tulane talking about playing 2015 season opener in Superdome

Not sure what happened. In retrospect, that would have been preferable to having the season opener against McNeese State cancelled due to lightning.



Edit: McNeese State still got their $500,000 guarantee for the game despite the cancellation.


LSU game vs. McNeese State canceled, will not be rescheduled


This post was edited on 3/13/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted by RebTheodoreLogan
San Dimas, California
Member since Sep 2015
89 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 2:47 pm to
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I applaud them for not being scared to schedule anyone


They don't play UAB or Tulane for the same reason Arkansas doesn't play Arkansas State or we play Southern. Basically everybody in the SEC does this to the smaller conference D1 schools in their state, I don't see why you're hung up on Ole Miss v Southern.

Edited to add: I see LSU has played Tulane once this century.
This post was edited on 3/13/16 at 2:56 pm
Posted by RebTheodoreLogan
San Dimas, California
Member since Sep 2015
89 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 2:51 pm to
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better fan experience


Yes, because the Ole Miss football experience with all that crappy Grove and stuff is never mentioned as a must for any football fan.

I know I just drive through Hattiesburg on Saturdays just to soak in the ambiance.

I'm not asking you to stop being wrong, just stop repeating it.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 2:54 pm to
Southern Miss is Alabama's 9th most played series.

We played them almost every year from the mid-60s to the mid 2000's. The games in the 90's and 2000's were wars. Southern Miss used to be very, very good defensively when Bower was there.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 2:59 pm to
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No UAB, South Alabama, Troy, Jax State, or Samford. I believe Auburn has played everyone of those except maybe USA


The only Division 1A game vs an in-state team Alabama or Auburn have ever played was Auburn vs UAB in 1996 in UAB's first ever Division 1A game. Neither Alabama or Auburn has ever played Troy or South Alabama.

Auburn has played a few of the 1AA schools in-state lately (Samford, Jax St, Alabama A&M). Alabama has not (though Alabama and Auburn played Samford regularly in the early years when it was Howard as well as Birmingham Southern).
This post was edited on 3/13/16 at 3:02 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145085 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 3:00 pm to
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A&M doesn't play Houston anymore
we just play rice, smu, lamar, Sam Houston state, etc
Posted by RebTheodoreLogan
San Dimas, California
Member since Sep 2015
89 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 3:03 pm to
Kind of thread hijack:

What has led to Southern Miss' fall? (from their level where they always won their conference, were consistent and gave SEC teams fits) Was it bad conference alignment, improvement in scouting that led to fewer diamonds in the rough slipping through, the improvement and/or rise of Troy and Louisiana Lafayette? Did SEC revenue just put State and Ole Miss on too high a plane facility wise? Or were they poorly managed by the athletic department? Maybe ghost of Jeff Bower?

Anybody's thoughts? I think its a combination of bad athletic leadership and the rise of the Troys and ULaLa's that hurt them the most. They never really out-recruited anybody, they just evaluated and developed talent better (imo). We they couldn't automatically get the best second tier players from south Alabama and Louisiana it hurt them.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 3:07 pm to
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What has led to Southern Miss' fall? (from their level where they always won their conference, were consistent and gave SEC teams fits) Was it bad conference alignment, improvement in scouting that led to fewer diamonds in the rough slipping through, the improvement and/or rise of Troy and Louisiana Lafayette? Did SEC revenue just put State and Ole Miss on too high a plane facility wise? Or were they poorly managed by the athletic department? Maybe ghost of Jeff Bower?

Anybody's thoughts? I think its a combination of bad athletic leadership and the rise of the Troys and ULaLa's that hurt them the most. They never really out-recruited anybody, they just evaluated and developed talent better (imo). We they couldn't automatically get the best second tier players from south Alabama and Louisiana it hurt them.





They got used to winning 7 games at a minimum and started getting irritated at Bower only going 7-5 after going 8-3, 9-3, 7-5, 9-3, 8-4 from 1996-2000 even though Bower seemed to be a guy who was happy staying at Southern Miss for forever. On top of that, the "spread" was starting to catch on across mid-major football and they were still trying to win games 13-10 with great defense and just enough offense. My guess is people got bored with that, especially when it stopped winning 9 games a year.

They fired him, hired Fedora and Fedora had very similar years for the first 3, then had a big year in 2011 and bolted (unlike Bower). When he left the roster had some major holes (how major, who knows) and Ellis Johnson came in and was an all-time disaster. I can't believe that he took them from 12-2 to 0-12 all by himself, as Fedora must have left the cupboard pretty clean.

Then they hired Monken and he has come in and pretty clearly built them back to a competitive squad.
This post was edited on 3/13/16 at 3:08 pm
Posted by RebTheodoreLogan
San Dimas, California
Member since Sep 2015
89 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 3:18 pm to
I hope Monken's late departure doesn't set them back. Its hard to stay consistent when you have coaches who only stay long enough to get a bigger paycheck somewhere else. Guys like that will definitely sacrifice a future season for one more win today.

After Fedora's big year they won 4 games the next three years. Jeez.

I do like their new coach. I'll be rooting for them.

You may see an Ole Miss/Southern series - Ole Miss' coach graduated from Southern and Southern's Coach graduated from Ole Miss. Who knows?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 3:20 pm to
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I do like their new coach. I'll be rooting for them.

You may see an Ole Miss/Southern series - Ole Miss' coach graduated from Southern and Southern's Coach graduated from Ole Miss. Who knows?


Yea, Southern Miss got a little too big for themselves around the firing on Bower. They told us they refused to play us in Tuscaloosa anymore unless we came to Hattiesburg (the same deal they told State and Ole Miss). Obviously we laughed at them and told them to take a hike.

I hope things work out for them too. I've always liked their program. They have solid fan support and I hope they continue to improve and get a shot to move up to the AAC.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 3:56 pm to
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Miss. State is willing to do a 1-1 with them (like they are with Troy, South Alabama, etc...) while we are not.


But you agreed to the same with Memphis and got that arse beat. At least we beat Southern in Hattiesburg
This post was edited on 3/13/16 at 4:01 pm
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 3/13/16 at 4:50 pm to
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I see LSU has played Tulane once this century


Umm, we've played them in 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, and 2001 in this century.

LSU vs Tulane

The 2015 matchup fell through due to Tulane not agreeing on the placement of where LSU fans should sit in the Superdome, to my understanding.
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