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re: Texas fans- I have a question about rivalries

Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:47 am to
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
695 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:47 am to
Except Georgia Tech is actually a good school ;-)

But point taken
Posted by nclsutiger
Winston-Salem,NC
Member since Mar 2005
308 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:46 am to
The Texas vs A&M situation sounds sort of like LSU Tulane decades ago when they played. Always expected to win so no big deal when LSU did, but if Tulane ever won, it was hard to digest. Especially if you lived in New Orleans.
Posted by hookem33
Dripping Springs, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
1089 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 6:14 am to
I think it's equal. The A&M rivalry is very important to a lot of people in this state. Most of us have family who went to both universities so Thanksgiving used to be a lot of fun. I would be lying if I said I didn't hope they bring that game back on Thanksgiving weekend.
Oklahoma rivalry is just as intense. I still hate Barry Switzer LOL.
Also don't sleep on the Arkansas rivalry. I am old enough to remember that one and it was intense and I fully expect that to heat up quickly.
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
2471 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:21 am to
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I think it's equal.


I couldn't disagree more.

OU and Texas are peer programs. A&M has done nothing that has mattered in college football in any of our lifetimes.

If at the start of any season, you were to tell me we could have a victory over only 1 of the 2, I would take the victory over OU.
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
5027 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:34 am to
In recent years no, but there have been several instances in the past where OU/Texas had national championship implications.

Texas/Texas A&M is just a game for the Horns, and is a Super Bowl for the Aggies. It’s the equivalent scenario for Oklahoma/Oklahoma State.

There’s a lot of prestige, bragging rights, and in some cases, impacts on the national championship/college football playoff landscape in the RRR.

This is the first time since 2011 where both teams are undefeated when facing each other. This has the feels of 2000-2009 all over again.
Posted by hookem33
Dripping Springs, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
1089 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:44 am to
quote:

I couldn't disagree more.

OU and Texas are peer programs. A&M has done nothing that has mattered in college football in any of our lifetimes.

If at the start of any season, you were to tell me we could have a victory over only 1 of the 2, I would take the victory over OU.


As is your right...but you can't visit any horn or aggie board without threads talking about how we don't care if we ever play again. Total bs. That rivalry means a hell of a lot to a lot of people on both sides.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12810 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:53 am to
Posted by Txspur
San Antonio
Member since Dec 2018
59 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:55 am to
Aggy has a lot of t-shirt fans as well!
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33116 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:56 am to
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Which rivalry do you care more about? Oklahoma or Texas ATM


It depends on if they like bears or twinks.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 7:56 am
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
1453 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:59 am to
Sorry. Another OU interloper here.

But my family has a house in Austin and have a well known business there. So pretty familiar with Texas.

Texas-Texas A&M is your typical Ag-Flag rivalry with a bit of Texas style hubris thrown on top. It hurts a Texans over the top pride to lose that game. Aggie pride in being a hard working salt of the earth Texan. And Longhorn pride in being the "anointed" selected by the almightyTexans.

Texas vs. OU is more of a state vs. state rivalry more than anything. And to some degree a cultural thing. Texans think they are better than Okies by virtue of being Texans. They see us as vermin infesting their state. Like a plague of locusts with missing teeth.

Obviously Okies see it differently. But you didn't ask that question.

Nothing is more shameful to a Texan than to get one upped by a non Texan... Especially an Okie.
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2208 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:15 am to
Nobody has T-shirt fans like Texas.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:18 am to
quote:

A&M is that lose/lose situation either you beat them like you are supposed to or they beat you and it is a catastrophic loss but even when you win it isn't really a win because you were supposed to.



Well considering the rivalry has been even since the 70's with A&M you have endured a lot of catastrophe in your lifetime.

It never ceases to crack me up how sips try to act like A&M is some little cow college like it was 75 years ago or that Texas just dominates over A&M in some way still.
Posted by Hmbre97
Round Rock, TX
Member since Jan 2015
568 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Nobody has T-shirt fans like Texas.


Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8201 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:25 am to
quote:

Well considering the rivalry has been even since the 70's with A&M you have endured a lot of catastrophe in your lifetime. It never ceases to crack me up how sips try to act like A&M is some little cow college like it was 75 years ago or that Texas just dominates over A&M in some way still.

I’ve seen your username for a long time across boards.. so I assume it’s the same person.. anyways..

Why do y’all throw your National Titles away like that? You were good enough to win a NC.. but not good enough to compete with Texas? Come on.
Sorry. 3 NC

On that topic, I wonder if we will now claim some more championships..
Alabama and Aggie style.

Texas vs A&M 118 Games
1st 50 games - 67%
Next 50 games - 67%
Last 18 games - 67%

Overall 76-34-5
67% Percent

move the goalpost all you want, but those are the facts.. meet me at Doubledave’s and I’ll fight you
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 8:28 am
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55318 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:29 am to

quote:

move the goalpost all you want,



What an interesting thirties say after you post this

quote:

Last 18 games - 67%
Posted by VYForever
Frisco
Member since Feb 2019
96 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:33 am to
If you are a long-time Texan (2nd-5th generation), you are not only blessed to be a denizen of God's country, but like was previously stated you probably have a complicated family tree and social network and professional network littered with both Aggies and Longhorns. The familiarity, and passion, combined with the proximity fuels the hate and smolders year round.

But alumni of the last generation (graduated from 2000's-Today, let's call it) know the enemy of great is good. And OU is good enough to get in our way from time to time, and visa versa, especially in seasons when either of us are on a road to national stage prominence. National stage prominence not being anything aggy is familiar with except for the brief flame of Johnny Football.

They've never won anything and, though the law of large numbers and just sheer mathematical probability says on a long enough timeline in a multiverse they should, they probably never will.

That knowledge is good enough and while I hate OU and don't hate a&m (a lot of Longhorns kids will probably have to go there since the academic standards of UT are so difficult these days and a&m is truthfully a good enough school for an upper middle class life in Texas), I do get much more schadenfreude and emotional fulfillment from aggy football failure and their fans turmoil. The Jimbo train wreck the last few years has been opoid-grade feel good in the veins for me, for example.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 8:36 am
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8201 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:44 am to
quote:

What an interesting thirties say after you post this

idk what that means.. thing to say perhaps?

are you disputing that we are 12-6 in our last 18?

are you disputing that we are 76-34-5 in the 118 game history?

I didn’t originally set out for it to break down that way.. it is what it is.. y’all had a run in the 80s and 90s when you cheated your asses off..
#facts

none of that matters going forward, but it doesn’t make it not true..

In the next 20 years..
it will probably be about 12-8 one way or another.. I think y’all probably beat us next year for what it’s worth.. We are better this year, but we likely won’t play.. and we’re going to lose a lot if our Juniors leave early.

Ewers
Worthy
AD
Sanders
Brooks (maybe?)
Murphy DL

That’s gonna be hard to replace.
Maybe we’ll call Evan.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 8:47 am
Posted by Jimmy Montrose
Lake Highlands
Member since Aug 2021
680 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:48 am to
Might vary by location. I've been in Dallas for over 30 years and the OU has always felt bigger but that may be due to the location of the game/big population of OU fans in the area.

Posted by Jimmy Montrose
Lake Highlands
Member since Aug 2021
680 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:52 am to
Looking up at prior posts, I do think the state v. state aspect of Tex/OU coupled with the "neutral site" gives that rivalry a pretty clear edge, even if that isn't a large edge.

The game of the last century, Ark/Tex, same state v. state dynamic.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
5817 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:55 am to
quote:

Aggy has a lot of t-shirt fans as well


And diploma mill diplomas in hand
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