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Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:19 pm to texashorn
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I hate to break it to your aghole-centric self, but The University of Texas played other teams on Thanksgiving before its first Turkey Day tilt versus A&M.
I never said it was only A&M's day or only A&M's tradition. We aren't Longhorns, we don't assume we own a game played by two teams. Just like we don't assume people want to watch a game between two teams on a network that is tied to just one of them.
Yall can have all the Thanksgiving games you want. Doesn't hurt us, or those massive ratings.
Edit: What is it about me? Why am I the Aggie that forces your lurking arse to actually put another post on the count? I can't figure that one out...
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:49 pm to cardboardboxer
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If we win the hearts and minds of Texans that is like owning our own country.
I fail to see how Aggy is winning the hearts and minds of Texans.
Baylor and TCU dominated the conversation this year.
I was in San Antonio for a week at Thanksgiving and had the pleasure of reading the local sports page. They were basically laughing at A&M's struggles in the SEC this year while making apologetics for the Longhorns' struggles. Granted, SA is much closer to Austin and home to a huge UT booster in Red McCombs so SA has always been Longhorn country.
It would be one thing if Aggy was up and the Horns were down and nobody else in Texas existed. But you've got Baylor and TCU running roughshod over the Big XII and getting all the national media attention. TCU even demolished an Ole Miss team that A&M lost to by 15.
Y'all have a long way to go to win anything in Texas.
I'm sure the game against UTSA in 2016 will do the trick. A home and home with TCU would be a lot better.
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:08 pm to BrerTiger
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They were basically laughing at A&M's struggles in the SEC this year while making apologetics for the Longhorns' struggles
quote:well there you go
was in San Antonio
quote:because it dominated national discussion as well. Naturally it would dominate the talk. But you're insane if you think baylor and TCU will ever be on a&m and texas' level of interest and support
Baylor and TCU dominated the conversation this year.
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A home and home with TCU would be a lot better.
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:16 pm to WestCoastAg
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But you're insane if you think baylor and TCU will ever be on a&m and texas' level of interest and support
I know Baylor and TCU pale in comparison in terms of alumni and fan base.
And we all know Aggy and the Sips have more money than God.
Yet little old TCU and Baylor are running circles around you right now.
Doesn't seem to be helping in the Aggy battle to win the hearts and minds of Texans.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:20 pm to BrerTiger
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I fail to see how Aggy is winning the hearts and minds of Texans.
Not sure what this means, or how you measure it, but if it is by things like season ticket sold or clothing sold etc, then we are more than fine.
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Baylor and TCU dominated the conversation this year.
Yet TAMU still had better ratings and the 7th most watched game in CF this year.
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It would be one thing if Aggy was up and the Horns were down and nobody else in Texas existed. But you've got Baylor and TCU running roughshod over the Big XII and getting all the national media attention. TCU even demolished an Ole Miss team that A&M lost to by 15.
el oh el. How are Baylor and TCU doing recruiting-wise against TAMU? Not very well. TCU had a good game. If we are playing that game, how'd Texas do against a team TAMU beat? Oh and I have not heard people laugh at the "struggles" of TAMU in the SEC. They have a pretty good SEC record over the past 3 years. Compare it to other SEC teams and see where they fall.
You sound too butthurt. While TCU in 2016 would be fun (we have about 30 consecutive wins against them btw) I think UCLA is more of a brand name. I will take that game.
You sound too jealous and obsessed. Go have a drink and pout about TAMU being in the SECSECSEC.
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:21 pm to BrerTiger
putting aTm on on Texas' level of interest and support is a fallacy. I'm not even trying to troll either. But everyone knows the longhorns dominate that state in terms of fans and interest.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:23 pm to BrerTiger
They'll never win the hearts and minds of Texans. It's why their calculators told them that disassociation was the only viable option.
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Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:27 pm to BrerTiger
Here's some interesting polling data from 2013 (before JFF bolted and TCU/Baylor got all the national media love):
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I'm honestly surprised that Baylor got 8%.
That is amazing considering how awful they were not so long ago.
According the NY Times, Aggy hasn't really caught up to the Horns at all:
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-Texas A&M has caught up to Texas for having the largest fan base in the state. 22% identify themselves as Aggie fans to 20% for Texas, 10% for Houston, 8% for Baylor, 5% for Texas Tech, 4% for TCU, 3% for UTEP, and 2% for SMU. When we asked this same question in September of 2011 Texas led Texas A&M 23/15 but that was pre-Johnny Manziel/Kevin Sumlin era and that seems to have changed the balance of power in the state a little bit. There's a big partisan divide on school loyalties with Republicans preferring A&M 35/16, but Democrats going for the Longhorns 26/13 with A&M actually in third behind Houston.
-Voters in the state have mixed feelings about Johnny Football with 26% of them rating him favorably to 23% with an unfavorable opinion. 50% don't have an opinion either way. The previous year's in state Heisman recipient, Robert Griffin III, has a much better favorability rating at 36/11. Asked which of the two they like better, Texans pick RGIII by a 28/23 margin.
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I'm honestly surprised that Baylor got 8%.
That is amazing considering how awful they were not so long ago.
According the NY Times, Aggy hasn't really caught up to the Horns at all:
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Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:29 pm to cas4t
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But everyone knows the longhorns dominate that state in terms of fans and interest.
I think some of the Aggies around here are in denial about that basic reality.
They really believe that joining the SEC put them on an even plane or higher.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:30 pm to BrerTiger
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Y'all have a long way to go to win anything in Texas.
You are missing the forest for the trees.
If you went back to say 2007-when we won the same amount of regular season games-we wouldn't even BE in the San Antonio paper. When we were a mediocre Big 12 team they would pretend we basically didn't exist outside of maybe one article per offseason. They wouldn't be thinking about us enough to be able to make fun of our struggles. We were the invisible team.
We have not won the hearts of Texans, I will admit. Texans like boasting so we won't do that until we do something fellow Texans can shove in the face of non-Texans. But we have won the minds, and that is huge for us.
And it is more than us- the SEC has a real presence in the state too. Back in 2007 except for the winning the title game no one Texan THOUGHT about the SEC. The SEC wasn't on the map. It was the Big 12 or nothing. That is all that dominated the conversation. Now the SEC is a force in the state that everyone talks about. The more powerful the SEC brand is, the more powerful our brand becomes.
Just look at the ratings. We KILLED it last year given our low level of success. Killed it. And not just on the early high points- more people watched the LSU game than the TCU-Texas game. That is freaking winning right there. Even if they are only tuning in to watch you lose that is still money in the bank compared to 2007 when they didn't even care we existed.
I am happy for TCU and Baylor, but the fact it they hit the glass ceiling hard last year. For all their actual success, they probably won't have a better recruiting class than us, or better ratings, or even some sort of merchandise windfall. We will beat them on every one of those metrics despite a so-so season. That is success for us. That shows our mindshare FLOOR is close to their ceiling, it shows that even at our worst a SEC-powered A&M is still revelant if only to be the whipping boy. That is more than the Big 12 A&M got. Big 12 A&M got confused with Texas Tech by anyone outside of Texas.
Brer, you have to measure us by our own ruler to get why we say these things. Sure compared to a LSU or a Bama who owns their state it looks like we are not succeeding. But by our our metrics we are doing better than we ever expected at this point.
A game of ours was a top 10 rated game last year:
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Now you can say it is because of Auburn or whatever but that is not the point. The point is a regular season game of ours during a so-so season still got better ratings than ANY Big 12 affiliated game (including the TCU beatdown). Since we joined the SEC we have had a regular season game with higher ratings than the RRR every year. THAT is winning mindshare.
The hearts will come later. It takes time and success to build that up. We are working on it.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:31 pm to white beans
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It's why their calculators told them that disassociation was the only viable option.
That is, for certain, the smartest move Aggy has ever made.
Better to take your lumps in the SEC and get paid than be forever second fiddle in your state and get jacked around financially too.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:33 pm to goldennugget
HEY EVERYONE LOOK IT'S ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT A&M STARTED BY GOLDENNUGGET. I AM SHOCKED, TRULY SHOCKED
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:36 pm to BrerTiger
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I think some of the Aggies around here are in denial about that basic reality.
They really believe that joining the SEC put them on an even plane or higher.
Than the horns? No. We haven't, and we CAN'T until we win a modern national title. Period.
But are we on a higher plane than a Tech, or a Baylor or maybe even an OU in 2015? You bet we are. All those teams have to KILL IT during the regular season to get the amount of national exposure we get for sucking. We went from being the 3-6th most relevant team in Texas to being #2 with a bullet even during a so-so year. We went from recruiting in the top 25 to the top 15.
Anyone that says that A&M isn't on another level in the SEC than we were before is denying reality.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:43 pm to cardboardboxer
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Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:47 pm to cardboardboxer
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And it is more than us- the SEC has a real presence in the state too. Back in 2007 except for the winning the title game no one Texan THOUGHT about the SEC. The SEC wasn't on the map. It was the Big 12 or nothing
The whole world talks about the SEC, with or without Aggy in the SEC.
The fact that Texans were all wrapped up in their own world says far more about the state of Texas than it does about the SEC.
Though I have a hunch Longhorn fans paid attention to the SEC after their first (and last) run-in with the SEC in the BCS title game.
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Just look at the ratings. We KILLED it last year given our low level of success. Killed it. And not just on the early high points- more people watched the LSU game than the TCU-Texas game
Okay, so we've got:
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According to Sports Media Watch, the Aggies more than doubled up the Longhorns on Thanksgiving night with 2.9 million viewers compared to 1.3 million.
The year before LSU/Arkansas pulled in 4.96 million viewers. For a winless Arkansas team. The next year 2 million fewer people tuned to see us play Aggy on the same weekend (albeit at a much shittier time slot).
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:48 pm to BrerTiger
Aggies have isolated themselves in order to prostitute themselves out to the SEC. They'll take your cornholing for the cash, so they can build gaudy shite and brag like white trash, while burning through the moolah earned by someone else.
It really grinds their gears that they can no longer relate to the people they work with, or attend church with. Instead, they've aligned themselves with the slack-jawed SEC, who, while cornholing aggies, has gained a greater presence in Texas so as to recruit.
Stalin coined a term that is appropriate for aggies: useful idiots.
It really grinds their gears that they can no longer relate to the people they work with, or attend church with. Instead, they've aligned themselves with the slack-jawed SEC, who, while cornholing aggies, has gained a greater presence in Texas so as to recruit.
Stalin coined a term that is appropriate for aggies: useful idiots.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:50 pm to white beans
What, no cheeky comment about the actual contents of either post?
I guess your inner Texas sympathizer can't spin around the ratings so it is better to deflect. The fact that the RRR hasn't been a top 10 rated game since we came to the SEC is a very black and white way of showing how far we have come, and how far the Big 12 has fallen perception wise. I would deflect too if I was you.
Do I need to write another couple hundred words for you to have a pithy comment about this post too? Or will you take a rain check on the wall of text?
I guess your inner Texas sympathizer can't spin around the ratings so it is better to deflect. The fact that the RRR hasn't been a top 10 rated game since we came to the SEC is a very black and white way of showing how far we have come, and how far the Big 12 has fallen perception wise. I would deflect too if I was you.
Do I need to write another couple hundred words for you to have a pithy comment about this post too? Or will you take a rain check on the wall of text?
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:51 pm to cardboardboxer
Can't comment on something that I didn't read.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:53 pm to texashorn
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texashorn
Was I talking to you?
Do you think you add something relevant to the SEC Rant?
When Chicken starts a SWC Rant, you'll be the first to know.
It's got to be rough getting steamrolled by TCU, Baylor and Bert all in one season.
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