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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:23 am to oman
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No, almost no one outside of A&M would prefer to be in A&M's shoes, football wise.
Almost no one would rather root for a team that went to a bowl last year vs a team that didn't? That doesn't make sense either.
And that isn't even counting our much better facilities at the moment, or our larger stadium, or the fact that we play in a better conference. The only real advantage for Texas right now is a much better brand, which doesn't mean the same thing on paper as the rest of it.
Hell, half the boasting about "how well Texas is doing" I hear from the locals hinge on Charlie getting fired after this year and them replacing him with some sort of badass like Herman. When a good chunk of your fanbase expects the coach to be fired at the end of the year you aren't doing great.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:49 am to oman
Look, you hate A&M. We get it. And you are delusional if you think a single one of us is happy about the recent developments and general trajectory of the Sumlin regime. But what you fail to comprehend is that it is a big state and we have a lot of influence in Texas. Sumlin will either fix things or be fired, probably as soon as this year. You are a fool if you believe that given our investment in our program, that will be happy with and content with "status quo."
But go ahead with your reasoning that we are weird and socially unacceptable, that we never win anything, and that you jack off to the Longhors being in the SEC every night.
I assure you that there is a big difference with being content with an eight win program and doing something to try for more. And I also assure you that the powers that be at A&M aren't happy and are embarrassed about Sumlin's direction. There has never been the commitment to winning in football at A&M than there is now.
But hey, aggy weird, aggy suck, aggy jizz on dead dog, aggy be tu bitch before you was alive.
But go ahead with your reasoning that we are weird and socially unacceptable, that we never win anything, and that you jack off to the Longhors being in the SEC every night.
I assure you that there is a big difference with being content with an eight win program and doing something to try for more. And I also assure you that the powers that be at A&M aren't happy and are embarrassed about Sumlin's direction. There has never been the commitment to winning in football at A&M than there is now.
But hey, aggy weird, aggy suck, aggy jizz on dead dog, aggy be tu bitch before you was alive.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 11:56 am
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:56 am to cardboardboxer
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Almost no one would rather root for a team that went to a bowl last year vs a team that didn't? That doesn't make sense either.
It makes perfect sense, given the recruiting and coaching issues A&M has, and the fact that Texas' recruiting is back to acceptable levels. Maybe Sumlin will end this cycle strong -- he hasn't been a good closer recently.
A&M has a two game losing streak (v. 20th and unranked) going and Texas a one game winning streak (v 13th ranked), if you really want to focus on recent developments.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:57 am to The Balinese Club
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Look, you hate A&M. We get it. And you are delusional if you think a single one of us is happy about the recent developments and general trajectory of the Sumlin regime. But what you fail to comprehend is that it is a big state and we have a lot of influence in Texas. Sumlin will either fix things or be fired, probably as soon as this year. You are a fool if you believe that given our investment in our program, that will be happy with and content with "status quo."
But go ahead with your reasoning that we are weird and socially unacceptable, that we never win anything, and that you jack off to the Longhors being in the SEC every night.
I assure you that there is a big difference with being content with an eight win program and doing something to try for more. And I also assure you that the powers that be at A&M aren't happy and are embarrassed about Sumlin's direction. There has never been the commitment to winning in football at A&M than there is now.
But hey, aggy weird, aggy suck, aggy jizz on dead dog, aggy be tu bitch before you was alive.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 12:01 pm to oman
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Hell, half the boasting about "how well Texas is doing" I hear from the locals hinge on Charlie getting fired after this year and them replacing him with some sort of badass like Herman. When a good chunk of your fanbase expects the coach to be fired at the end of the year you aren't doing great.
Sure man. You and the locals have it covered.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 12:11 pm to oman
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It makes perfect sense, given the recruiting and coaching issues A&M has, and the fact that Texas' recruiting is back to acceptable levels.
Charlie Strong has out recruiting us both cycles he has been there. Doesn't change the fact that if he doesn't get 9 wins he is shitcanned.
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A&M has a two game losing streak (v. 20th and unranked) going and Texas a one game winning streak (v 13th ranked), if you really want to focus on recent developments.
That is what you call a small sample size.
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Sure man. You and the locals have it covered.
Well I am in Austin.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 12:23 pm to cardboardboxer
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Charlie Strong has out recruiting us both cycles he has been there. Doesn't change the fact that if he doesn't get 9 wins he is shitcanned.
He wins 8 and he is gets another year. Grinding of teeth, but he does.
And I can see by your dissembling that you if you disagree that Texas is in a better football situation, now, than A&M, you aren't really interested in defending that weak position.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 5/6/16 at 1:36 pm to oman
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quote: A&M has a two game losing streak (v. 20th and unranked) going and Texas a one game winning streak (v 13th ranked), if you really want to focus on recent developments. That is what you call a small sample size.
Not only is it a small sample size, but Oman chose to use a game where Baylor did not have a player on the team who had taken a snap as a QB in college. In fact, they had to use a guy that had not played QB since he was a sophomore at a 2A high school. That win by tu certainly indicated the direction of Longhorn Football, does it not? The reality is that every true t-sipper I know is praying to God that Chuck doesn't win more than seven games so he will be shite canned. You know, Oman, these are the folks with a degree from the University of Texas at Austin. In contrast, all the t-shirt t-sips constantly run their mouths about how Chuck has righted the ship, how he has "values", and how he will win championships. You know, Oman, these are the folks that have never set foot on the campus in Austin, much less ever attended a class there. We all know which group you belong to.
Oman, why are you such a tool? I'd be glad to lighten up but you choose to be a jack arse instead. Maybe if you were capable of an intelligent and well thought out post then I wouldn't have to lighten up. But instead, you choose to post drivel and we're just calling you out on it.
And only a dumb arse would confuse that with us begin excited about the direction of TAMU football, because we aren't.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 1:51 pm to The Balinese Club
Balinese Club:
Is Sumlin's buyout $15M if yall were to cut ties in Nov/Dec?
That's a big chunk of change, I know yall have been heavily committed to investing in the program & SEC move etc, but do you think that buyout would take place assuming they wanted him out?
For the same reason's I knew Miles was safe last year.. anything> $10M is crazy money regardless of what anyone thinks.
Is Sumlin's buyout $15M if yall were to cut ties in Nov/Dec?
That's a big chunk of change, I know yall have been heavily committed to investing in the program & SEC move etc, but do you think that buyout would take place assuming they wanted him out?
For the same reason's I knew Miles was safe last year.. anything> $10M is crazy money regardless of what anyone thinks.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:02 pm to The Balinese Club
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Oman, why are you such a tool? I'd be glad to lighten up but you choose to be a jack arse instead. Maybe if you were capable of an intelligent and well thought out post then I wouldn't have to lighten up. But instead, you choose to post drivel and we're just calling you out on it.
I can't help it if you and your buddies get sidetracked when my only point was that the direction of Texas football right now is better than the direction of A&M football. If you want to challenge or address that, then go ahead.
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And only a dumb arse would confuse that with us begin excited about the direction of TAMU football, because we aren't.
Hey dude, believe me. I don't think anyone wants you speaking for them.
And it looks like it's taken you awhile, but you finally got my point.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:03 pm to jb4
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:08 pm to OldSchoolHorn
That's a good question. I think it may be less at the end of this year. (Someone chime in if you know the exact details).
There didn't seem to be much of a push to oust Sumlin during the season last year. However, with two high profile QB transfers and the accompanied drama, a reluctance and delay to fire Spavital, a lackluster recruiting class (by recent standards), and just general tiredness of his bullshite has the naitives restless.
Sumlin can play his way off of the hot seat and still sign a good class this year. That would right things with a lot of folks, myself included. However, if he turns in seven or eight wins, or less, then the proverbial hat will be passed among the BMA's to get rid of him. You know how that goes - the cash call to fire the coach.
As for Miles, I was very confused by all of that. I always thought, and believe, that he is a top tier coach. And I seriously question who LSU would have replaced him with, because they could do a lot worse. Obviously cooler heads prevailed and he signed an outstanding class this year.
There didn't seem to be much of a push to oust Sumlin during the season last year. However, with two high profile QB transfers and the accompanied drama, a reluctance and delay to fire Spavital, a lackluster recruiting class (by recent standards), and just general tiredness of his bullshite has the naitives restless.
Sumlin can play his way off of the hot seat and still sign a good class this year. That would right things with a lot of folks, myself included. However, if he turns in seven or eight wins, or less, then the proverbial hat will be passed among the BMA's to get rid of him. You know how that goes - the cash call to fire the coach.
As for Miles, I was very confused by all of that. I always thought, and believe, that he is a top tier coach. And I seriously question who LSU would have replaced him with, because they could do a lot worse. Obviously cooler heads prevailed and he signed an outstanding class this year.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:15 pm to oman
Again, you are missing the comprehension part of reading. While WE as former students, fans, and supporters are not happy with the direction of the program, especially recent events, I wouldn't want to trade spots with tu. As has been pointed out to you over, and over, and over the trajectory of their program is not any better than ours. Clearly their situation, while different, is not currently any better than ours.
And I don't think any Ag on this board would mind me saying so.
And I don't think any Ag on this board would mind me saying so.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:20 pm to The Balinese Club
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As has been pointed out to you over, and over, and over the trajectory of their program is not any better than ours. Clearly their situation, while different, is not currently any better than ours. And I don't think any Ag on this board would mind me saying so.
And as stated way earlier in this thread, only an Ag would say this. An objective observer would see that one program is slowly headed up, and another down.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:22 pm to oman
And as also stated, your logic is flawed and objectivity questionable.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:24 pm to The Balinese Club
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And as also stated, your logic is flawed and objectivity questionable.
I guess we can wait for a non-Ag fan to agree with you then.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 2:28 pm to oman
Because going 6-7 and losing your bowl in humiliating fashion then going 5-7 and not even making a bowl the following season just screams "upward momentum".
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 5/6/16 at 3:43 pm to Ag Zwin
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Let's start with the scholarship limits. The point WAS NOT that we also had no limits. The point WAS that Texas and other big schools could just bring all the talent they wanted and put them on the shelf.
You don't know what you're talking about.
The scholarship limits were meant to even the field between public and private schools.
A&M recruited as many or more Texas high school athletes as the Longhorns. The state of Texas supplemented all state school athletes through funding that private schools did not receive. Nothing nefarious.
There were times during the 1960s that Gene Stallings was judged to have brought in a better class at A&M than Darrell Royal at Texas. You won a SWC title in 1967 with many of those players.
To buttress my point, read this from 1974:
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Another rules change may have a more positive impact. Last year the NCAA imposed an annual limit of 30 scholarships for football and placed similar restrictions on other sports. The scholarship limit is intended to combat spiraling costs, but in the Southwest Conference the new rule may have the additional effect of restoring balance to the league. This is the hope of many private school backers who recognize that the scholarship limit may be the last chance for their schools to regain parity.
Most of the private schools, as their followers point out, couldn’t afford to recruit many more than 30 football players before the NCAA reduced the scholarship limit, so the new ceiling won’t hurt their football programs. But Texas and the other state schools have been bringing in closer to 50 players a year. Because of the scholarship limit, between fifteen and twenty boys who might otherwise have signed with Texas will have to go elsewhere. The state schools will no longer monopolize all the talent, and the private schools will be able to supplement their teams with players who in other years were good enough to play for Texas.
One long-suffering Baylor fan sees this progression of events; the private school teams will get better, and Texas will get worse, because it will no longer be able to rely on a bottomless pit of talent—third team, fourth team, fifth team, red shirts—to make up for some bad guesses in recruiting or a devastating string of injuries. If he is right, then the gap between Texas and the rest of the league should narrow considerably within five years.
But is he right? The other state schools—Arkansas, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech—recruit as many players as the Longhorns year after year, and yet they have fared little better against UT than the private schools. Southern California has limited itself to 30 scholarships for years without damaging its standing as a perennial national power. Like Texas, the Trojans win with quality, not numbers.
Texas Monthly, 1974
Posted on 5/6/16 at 3:58 pm to texashorn
Shouldn't you be working on your dissertation about how Earl Rudder and Bernard Shriever were "draft dodgers" because they were Aggies?
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