re: Tennessee has created a new admin position; police liason

Maybe your confusion is from your inflation of the importance of investigating the crime scene. The most important evidence in a rape case is usually the testimony of the accuser, a physical exam, and the results of the rape kit. All three of these were already done before any calls were made. An investigation of the crime scene could be really important if there was a question of the parties being present. But in this case there were multiple witnesses that she was at the apartment. The evidence that could be most important to convict was already collected by the time the police liaison called Butch.

If your still concerned you should realize that people are almost always aware when they commit a crime. If they are going to destroy evidence they will just do so before any formal investigation begins. And when a football player in a southern college town is under investigation the media start reporting it pretty quickly. Which they did in this case - reporting on the investigation before the apartment was searched.

Calling Butch Jones doesn't jeapordize the case and wasn't a red flag. It's par for the course at every major D1 school

The rape culture was rampant especially when the HC is putting hits out on a player who tried to help a victim and called him a traitor. Lets also not forget that almost every woman involved didn't want to press charges out of fear for their lives.

Sadly, you probably believe all that. Shocking that your school is involved in a legal lawsuit regarding sexual assaults. Carry on as usual Tennessee, clearly you guys are doing it right.

I believe it because I know what I'm talking about. In regards to the lawsuit, UT isn't the only school being sued nor is the last school that will be sued over investigation processes of on campus sexual assaults. There's a wave of them coming because of Title IX rules changes. It's an absolute mess right now at every University

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And it's kinda sad how much you Vol fans will stand up for Peyton Manning when he sexually assaulted a trainer and then went on to try and drag her name through the mud. And yes, all that has been proven.

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You're actually this fricking stupid

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The rape culture was rampant especially when the HC is putting hits out on a player who tried to help a victim and called him a traitor. Lets also not forget that almost every woman involved didn't want to press charges out of fear for their lives.

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And you're even more fricking stupid than he is

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No man, Coach Jones is clearly risking his multi-million dollar job to cover up the crimes of players that have already played their last game for UT.

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Hmmmm

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The university would “arrange for top quality legal representation” for any athlete accused of sexual assault, the complaint states. Plaintiffs say the school dragged out investigations of their assaults for so long that the accused perpetrators either graduated or transferred.

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You're quoting a plaintiff's complaint as a fact? And even then it makes claims that don't even mention Coach Jones?

Is this bizarro performance-art? Are you trying to not make a compelling argument?

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How a University of Tennessee insider turned on a program she once loved

Anita Wadhwani, awadhwani@tennessean.com30 days agoFacebookTwitterGoogle Plusmore

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Wright is in a good position to know about the disciplinary process. She used to be in charge of it. She is now helping attorneys for the eight women.

UT has not yet filed a formal legal response to the lawsuit filed Feb. 9, but its attorney, Bill Ramsey, has strongly disputed the allegations. And on Thursday, Athletics Director Dave Hart said athletes are "absolutely not treated any differently" from other students facing campus discipline.

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'...by the end, I was just scared'

Wright, the former director of Student Judicial Affairs, says that over the course of two years — between 2011 and 2013 — she felt pressure, intimidation and finally fear in her dealings with members of the athletic department, including its then-newly hired director — Hart — as she tried to do her job when it came to disciplining student athletes.

"I always knew that everything I did was being heavily watched and I had a  lot of eyes on me, but that was just part of the job," Wright said last week. "But by the end, I was just scared."

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Attending one 2011 football game, Wright recalls: “I counted 25 players who had been in my office.”


What struck her as strange was the stories of players told were exactly the same, as if they had memorized a script.

"It got to the point where it was humorous," she said. "By the third interview, I was in disbelief. It's not uncommon for individuals to get together and make sure their stories are straight, but the level of details —  that they were using the exact same words, word for word —  made it seem so well orchestrated and remarkable."

When Wright interviewed the woman's roommates, they told Wright that members of the athletic department had already asked them questions. The woman decided not to go through the process any further, telling Wright she felt intimidated and that the process was dragging out too long.

"We found out after the fact that the athletic department did their own investigation," she said. "They interviewed the woman’s roommates. It's one thing to talk to their own guys and say, 'what happened?', but to reach out to people not from their team and do interviews, that’s just not OK."

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UT even did a character assassination attempt on her and their independent firm cleared her of the accusation

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The university would “arrange for top quality legal representation” for any athlete accused of sexual assault, the complaint states. Plaintiffs say the school dragged out investigations of their assaults for so long that the accused perpetrators either graduated or transferred.

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Several things here:

-so the plaintiff said it, meaning it's definitely true and can be stated as fact

-I fail to see what's wrong with having good legal representation. It's not like they're rigging the trials or anything. In fact, not affording our athletes legal representation is just straight-up unconstitutional, as it violates due process of law. And UT didn't "provide" them with it, just allowed the players involved to get their own.

-and how the frick is dragging out the investigations beneficial to the players. It doesn't let them play longer, because Butch immediately suspends them when even just allegations come out, and has only ever reinstated one (Von Pearson after he was found to be innocent). The dragging out of the investigations is damaging to the players because the NFL or most other jobs won't touch them with this hanging over their heads. In fact, if they would have finished investigations of the AJ Johnson case earlier instead of dragging it out, he's probably in the NFL making millions right now.

TJGATOR also assumes that the University of Tennessee provided these athletes with top legal counsel, which is patently false.



Not even The Tennessean is dumb enough to make that claim. They might say "arranged for them to have top legal counsel" but not without immediately following it with "the lawsuit alleges".