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re: Tenn, your matchup with the gatas is favorable for you this year

Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:37 pm to
Yeah they could have. Bama let up after Dobbs came in. Plus Bama had no film on Dobbs.

I would say take the Vols shades off, but that's just way too much to ask of Tennessee fans on here.
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
10041 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:38 pm to
Just because Sutton is only player in our secondary that gets talked about doesn't mean he's the only good one. Our two senior safeties, Randolph and McNeil, have over 300 combined tackles and 10 INT's. Todd Kelly is a very good backup who had 3 picks last year including one vs UF, Justin Martin and Emmanuel Mosely are more than capable at the other CB spot opposite Sutton.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:39 pm to
And lol @ saying UF played one of its best gAmes vs. Tennessee last year...
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:40 pm to
First, Florida only lost Dante Fowler from last years defense. Second, Florida's defense will be fine simply due to the athletes we have on that side of the ball.

Florida's offense will be more well coached, and unless Grier is somehow worse than Driskel, the offense will be better than it was a year ago. Playing at home will only help.

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played thier second best game of the season.


Absolutely not. Florida played awful against Tennessee last year and still managed to win the game.

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Also the game is in the swamp and at this point in the streak playing at home is adetriment to TN in this match up. The nerves are palpable in Neyland in these games and the team plays as tight as the crowed feels. I think we'll come out on a mission to shut up the Gator crowd and play angry.


Interesting reverse psychology strategy. Don't know how it'll work out, but it's a bold move cotton. It'll be fun to watch (hopefully) Florida whooping UT arse for an 11th straight year.
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
10041 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:41 pm to
Because clearly you Florida fans' perspectives are totally pure and free of bias and we should all feel the same way you do.

Ok fine UT goes 0-12, loses by 100 to UF, Butch is fired. Florida's offense miraculously becomes elite, and they go 15-0 and win the natty 5 years in a row.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:43 pm to
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Ok fine UT goes 0-12, loses by 100 to UF, Butch is fired. Florida's offense miraculously becomes elite, and they go 15-0 and win the natty 5 years in a row.


That was borderline erotic
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
10041 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:47 pm to
Both teams played very poorly last year. That said UT was the (slightly) better team 3/4 of the game. Too bad this isn't hockey. The loss stung more knowing that had we played even an average level game, we would have won.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 2:48 pm
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:50 pm to
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logical


OK logical, right.

1. To say that was one of UFs best games of the season is HILARIOUS. That was one of UF's WORST offensive showings of the whole season. That was their 2nd worst YPC average against an SEC team that season, and it was their worst passing game all year - 49.58 passer rating. They also gave up 3 turnovers, two of them deep in their own territory. So maybe the defense had a good day, but most of the players that had big games against Tennessee last year are back this year. Cox had 3 sacks and is back, the whole secondary returns, Jonathan Bullard and Alex McCallister - two guys that had big days on the DL, are also back.

2. UF lost a lot of talent on D? They lost Fowler, yes who was good, and who else? Orr barely played in that game and quit the team a few weeks later. Cummings was OK last season but nothing special and wasn't drafted, Mike Taylor didn't play at LB and was also undrafted and Neiron Ball had almost no impact all game long with 4 tackles and was the only other defensive players drafted - in the 4th or 5th round I believe. UF has 4 and 5 star players at LB so I doubt his loss will greatly impact the defense.

3. UF was about average that day against the pass compared to the rest of the season, although they dominated on the ground, but that was to be expected since UT is horrible on the OL.

4. If anything, Florida has to not look past UK before Tennessee. I doubt the UK game will have an impact on the UT game unless someone gets hurt.

5. 2-3 series against Western Carolin? That's silly, you know they'll play at least a half. AT LEAST.

6. And somehow you logically convinced yourself that UT playing in the swamp, where UF is statistically a much better team, is better for UT than playing at home based on random anecdotes about the team playing tight at home.

7. And no logical reason to believe the swamp will be quiet expect for your hope that UT will somehow jump on UF early.

So yeah. Great "logic."

This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:53 pm to
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Vols 34 Gators 13
quote:

athens-ga

This is delusional.

We lost by 1 point last year. The Gators waxed your asses. You might want to worry about your own delusions of grandeur.
Posted by tennfanatic
Greeneville, Tennessee
Member since Nov 2007
2088 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:57 pm to
We are the better team on paper no doubt but I have my doubts we win this game. Florida is just in our head and we have to find a way to win against the gators. Florida has nothing to lose and they will be at home. I think the real difference is the fact we have josh dobbs and we have a really good backfield with Hurd and Kamara. Honestly if we lose I think Mcelwain will have thoroughly out coached Butch in this game.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:58 pm to
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Just because Sutton is only player in our secondary that gets talked about doesn't mean he's the only good one. Our two senior safeties, Randolph and McNeil, have over 300 combined tackles and 10 INT's. Todd Kelly is a very good backup who had 3 picks last year including one vs UF, Justin Martin and Emmanuel Mosely are more than capable at the other CB spot opposite Sutton.



UT has a good secondary. I don't think anyone is saying it sucks. Like I said, they were #24 in pass efficiency last year.

But they faded down the stretch after a great start against a bunch of lousy passing teams...

First six games:
Utah State - #92 passing offense
Arkansas State - #39 passing offense - best passing team they faced
Oklahoma - #83 passing offense - best talent they faced
Georgia - #90 passing offense
Florida - #104 passing offense
Chattanooga - LOL

UT allowed 4 TD, got 9 INT, and was fairly dominant, giving up more than 200 yards passing only ONE TIME.

Last 7 games:

UT allowed 12 TD, got 7 INT, and was mediocre giving up 200 yards passing 4 times.



Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 3:02 pm to
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Yeah they could have. Bama let up after Dobbs came in. Plus Bama had no film on Dobbs.


That's what they claimed. Only problem is that they played him the year before and had plenty of film. They also knew he'd play as it was announced ahead of time. He burnt them the year before on more than one play but wasn't nearly as good. Saban or Kirby one underestimated him and didn't account for the jump between being a true frosh and a sophomore and were shocked at what they saw.

However, their best were in the game and simply couldn't get ahold of him. He is the most slippery runner playing right now. It's not his speed per se but the fact you just can't easily grab him even when you should have him.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 3:45 pm to
I guess I should have said one of UF's best games on D all season. I guess your O played like garbage all year.

I stand by my home vs away comment, I think playing on the road will help the team get away from the pressure of breaking the streak.

Sounds like the UF D didn't lose as much as I thought but I still don't think they are going to perform any better than they did last year considering they played great in that game last fall.

Also the point about the schedule influence on last years game vs. this years game has been glossed over or not mentioned at all to my rebuttles but is a very crucial point. Will be huge for TN this year.

Also the game being early helps TN considering UF has an all new staff and TN's systems aren't having any significant changes at all and we are the team with an extablished QB.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 3:48 pm to
UT does have a new OC, i don't know what that doesn't get mentioned more.

So it's not like there hasn't been any change. Staffing changes like that definitely matter.

UF got emasculated by Alabama in the 4th quarter last year and were still able to bounce back, I doubt the Kentucky game is too detrimental.

UF doesn't have Jeff Driskel - I guarantee the offense will do better than last year, like I have no doubt it will perform better.

And although UF lost some home games recently, their defense the last few years is always significantly better at home. The offense too. Like I said, big shocker there, but that'll be big with a young QB.
Posted by SystemsGo
Member since Oct 2014
2774 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

Dobbs will be throwing against false DBU. So he's gonna have trouble. But .... That's the only problem I see. This is what I though last year though. So I'll probably be surprised.


Dobbs didn't play against UF last year. UT wins if he does, and wins comfortably.

Butch made a poor poor decision on that one. Justin Worley is arguably not even literally worth his weight in dogshit.
Posted by SystemsGo
Member since Oct 2014
2774 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

I guess I should have said one of UF's best games on D all season. I guess your O played like garbage all year.


Justin Worley makes every opponent look like the focking Steel Curtain defense.
Posted by SystemsGo
Member since Oct 2014
2774 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 3:55 pm to
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6. And somehow you logically convinced yourself that UT playing in the swamp, where UF is statistically a much better team, is better for UT than playing at home based on random anecdotes about the team playing tight at home.


Tennessee is more than 3 points better than UF.
And the swamp isn't more than a 3 point advantage for UF. You know, statistically.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 4:00 pm to
Logic? If you try to get the hillbillies to write down (not many can write though) what logic means you will get the following answers:

Aint tat the tool you use to haul logs with?

It means that its provin and kinda of a law

Aint that what they put on cars to help the police find them?
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 4:06 pm
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 4:03 pm to
Yet Tennessee would have beaten Georgia if he wasn't hurt for a quarter?

Can't have it both ways... He's good he's not good... maybe the problem was Worley was OK but the rest of his offense was shite?

Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 4:16 pm to
How the frick is UT 3 points better than UF? Because you read it on the internet?

I'm not sure from a points perspective how much better UF is at home, but check these stats: you know, real fricking stats and not stupid shite you just made up:

I threw out EMU and E KY
(4 FBS games at home)
(6 FBS games) not at home

Pass Defense:
Home - 176.25 YPG
Not @ Home - 291.7 YPG

Rush Defense:
Home - 3.09 YPC, 117.5 per game
Not @ Home - 3.63 YPC, 127.50 per game

They were better at home on defense, and if you go back historically, that's the way it's been for a long long time.

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