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re: Spurrier is way out of line here and needs to back off

Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by thebearju
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2012
196 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:38 pm to
I love Spurrier but I think him calling for the guys job is a little much. He always blocks out media when Morris says something negative because it is the State Paper in his own city. I understand completely where Spurrier is coming from. The Penn State comment pissed me off. Hence, Spurrier had the right to make the comment. Just reassign him to Clemson but don't fire the guy. Gamecock faithful will be happy and Spurrier will be happy. Plus, Morris can cover a coach that talks to the media more.

Some of the people are making "Fire Morris" gameday signs which is absolutely dumb.
Posted by LouHoltz
Member since Apr 2010
100 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:39 pm to
This guy is just negging Spurrier constantly and he got fed up
This post was edited on 10/2/12 at 2:40 pm
Posted by SpringBokCock
Columbia, SC
Member since Oct 2003
3157 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:40 pm to
You are wrong and so is the press. The press is rallying around Ron Morris -- they shouldn't.

Morris is not a reporter. He's a columnist for The State Newspaper. Simple fact is he is lazy and has an axe to grind against Spurrier in particular and USC in general.

He first crossed the line when he falsely accused Spurrier of "poaching" Bruce Ellington from the basketball team. In fact, Ellington came to Spurrier after first clearing it with Darren Horn.

Most recently Morris accused Spurrier of putting winning over the health of his players by allowing Connor Shaw to play against UAB (as if we absolutely needed Shaw to beat them). Morris conveniently ignored the fact that Spurrier deferred to the doctors and Shaw -- the doctors had given him full clearance to play.

That was bad enough, but then Morris went on national satellite radio and compared Spurrier to Paterno -- suggesting he had too much power over the program and it would lead to abuses.

No one says the local newspaper has to be a complete homer. But if they are going to be critical, they also need to be factual. Spurrier is understandably pissed that a no-nothing columnist is making baseless accusations about his integrity, particularly about endangering his players. For God's sake, Spurrier had a player die at UF -- he knows the risks and is scrupulously diligent about protecting player health.

So, yeah, Spurrier has every right to tell The State he isn't going to talk to them unless and until they fire Morris. He doesn't have to take their shite. He's right to insist they either write the truth or STFU. It's up to them to decide whether they want to truthfully report on Gamecock athletics -- or continue muckraking and slamming the local University.
This post was edited on 10/2/12 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Kingpin
Tuscaloosa
Member since Jan 2009
3565 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:41 pm to
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Some of the people are making "Fire Morris" gameday signs which is absolutely dumb.


But is also an exercise of their rights to free speech.
Posted by AUTiger83
ATL
Member since Sep 2006
2188 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:41 pm to
Ole Ball Coach = he Mad.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58061 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:44 pm to
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No, I'm not. You can find common threads between any two people. There is no real reason to compare Spurrier to Penn State, other than to slander him. Don't you get that?


Yes there is. When discussing the topic of a coach having so much power that he is able to silence critics and anything else that may harm the program it is absolutely valid to bring up the worst case we have ever seen involving an all powerful coach.

Do I think it was a bit much and a poor way of explaining his point b/c of the extreme feelings about PSU? Yes.

However, he was right that its ridiculous for a coach to try and dictate the media's role in covering his team. That was his point. I don't think it was to slander, I think it was to really drive home how strongly he felt about how dictatorial OBC is acting. He is correct. He was clumsily making an absolute power corrupts absolutely argument.

If OBC wants a different reporter from that paper doing pressers I'm with that. But trying to get the guy fired and talking like he would ahve never taken the job b/c a local writer won't slobber his knob? Sorry, that's wrong.
This post was edited on 10/2/12 at 2:47 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:46 pm to
So you're ignoring all the other evidence about Morris have a crazy vendetta against OBC?
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21532 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:46 pm to
I would give Spurrier a bucket and pail and let him go on to the beach.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46187 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:47 pm to
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which he apologized for.

So if you apologize for something that makes everything ok? He still said it. And apparently has been writing crap about Spurrier for a while now. He's just trying to start shite about spurrier and I don't blame Spurrier for giving him the boot.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58061 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:49 pm to
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So you're ignoring all the other evidence about Morris have a crazy vendetta against OBC?


yes b/c things like this are a two way street.

a dude doesnt just up and start f-ing with the coach of your local major university team for no good reason.

Spurrier was probably just as big a dick to him as he is giving back. IDGAF about that stuff b/c its just petty tit for tat garbage.


Posted by thebearju
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2012
196 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:49 pm to
Don't just write a sign that says "Fire Morris". Make it funny. For example, Morris as the devil.

Like I said I completely agree with Spurrier's comments and I will stand behind him completely.
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31793 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

There is no real reason to compare Spurrier to Penn State, other than to slander him. Don't you get that?

I guess he should have compared him to a different powerful coach, such as Woody Hayes.

No, then he'd be saying that Spurrier punches athletes.

Maybe Howard Schnellenberger?

No, then he'd be saying that Spurrier intentionally goes out and recruits thug POSes and lets them run the asylum.

Yeah, you're making straw man arguments and, frankly, being more than a little combative, bro. Make your points with a touch less hostility.
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:51 pm to
Jesus, can you imagine how Spurrier would react if Guilbeau were to cover SC?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58061 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:52 pm to
quote:


So if you apologize for something that makes everything ok? He still said it. And apparently has been writing crap about Spurrier for a while now. He's just trying to start shite about spurrier and I don't blame Spurrier for giving him the boot.



does OBC have to like him? No. Does he have to take his questions? Not really.

But trying to get him fired? Pathetic.


its not like I dislike OBC either. I wanted to get him for A&M while he was free and we were suffering through Fran. He's a great coach. But this is just petty. He has been in this biz long enough that he should be able to ignore his critics.
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
18404 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:53 pm to
The old ball coach needs geritol
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:54 pm to
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Yeah, you're making straw man arguments and, frankly, being more than a little combative, bro. Make your points with a touch less hostility.
Go frick yourself.
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31793 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

Go frick yourself.

ISWYDT
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46187 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

But trying to get him fired? Pathetic.

I don't know much about the guy but he sounds like a POS. Why not try to get somebody that's not a POS to write about his team? The newspaper doesn't have to listen to Spurrier. If he actually deserves the job I'm guessing the newspaper won't fire him.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

But trying to get him fired? Pathetic.
I agree. Morris is pathetic and is getting a taste of his own medicine.
Posted by jackmanusc
Columbia, SC
Member since Apr 2012
3947 posts
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:00 pm to
Ron Morris on Nick Saban.

Nick Saban has oversigned on occasion. Some kid had to be told he couldn't get a scholarship to Bama. Hitler didn't get into the school he wanted to. Ergo, Nick Saban's recruiting will lead to another holocaust.

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