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re: Spurrier - "the all time great coach won it all this year Urban Meyer"
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:02 am to Bench McElroy
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:02 am to Bench McElroy
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Meyer and Saban don't even close to Bryant by any meaningful measure.
You can't compare this. This is so stupid.
It's hardly even the same game anymore. Scholarships, the forward pass, etc.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:06 am to RollTide1987
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42-35 is hardly what I would call a stomping.
What Ohio St did to Bama in the second half was a stomping. You can say the score was close, but once the game got into a rhythm Ohio St stomped, outcoached, and outclassed bama
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:08 am to UFMatt
Saban has a room in OBCs' head and has never paid a cent of rent.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:10 am to gamecocks22
Fine, compare both coaches to Bowden then. Neither man compares with him either. I would like to see Saban or Meyer try to finish in the top 5 for 14 straight years or win eight major bowl games in nine years like Bowden did.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:17 am to Bench McElroy
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Fine, compare both coaches to Bowden then. Neither man compares with him either. I would like to see Saban or Meyer try to finish in the top 5 for 14 straight years or win eight major bowl games in nine years like Bowden did.
Ok. It should be pointed out the HBC did not actually say that Urban is the "greatest coach of all time" though.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:19 am to Herman Frisco
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Saban has a room in OBCs' head and has never paid a cent of rent.
You're absolutely Right.
This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 10:22 am
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:27 am to gamecocks22
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It's hardly even the same game anymore.
He left the game in 1982 so it's closer to the same game than you think.
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Scholarships, the forward pass, etc.
1. The forward pass had been invented and Bryant had been using it.
2. Every other coach was operating under the same rules and restrictions.
He was coaching at a time when football was going through evolution after evolution (two platoon system, integration, etc.) and he continued to win despite the changes to the game. You can't say that for every head coach.
Bryant was a master at adaptation and motivation. It was always said that Bryant could beat you with his players and then could turn around and beat you with your players.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:30 am to gamecocks22
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You can say the score was close, but once the game got into a rhythm Ohio St stomped, outcoached, and outclassed bama
And yet Alabama still had a chance to tie it up with just over a minute left to play. OSU outplayed us in the second half but I wouldn't call it a stomping.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:32 am to Bench McElroy
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Fine, compare both coaches to Bowden then. Neither man compares with him either. I would like to see Saban or Meyer try to finish in the top 5 for 14 straight years or win eight major bowl games in nine years like Bowden did.
They're both better than Bowden, no question. He was overrated without Richt as oc.
Edit: And both also have more titles despite not coaching nearly as long. You Bammers can't have it both ways.
This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 10:33 am
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:32 am to gamecocks22
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It should be pointed out the HBC did not actually say that Urban is the "greatest coach of all time" though.
"THE all-time great coach" kind of implies GOAT. It's singular and puts Meyer in a class by himself, thus making it sound like Spurrier is implying he is the greatest to ever coach the game.
If he said "AN all-time great coach" you would have a point.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:33 am to RollTide1987
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And yet Alabama still had a chance to tie it up with just over a minute left to play. OSU outplayed us in the second half but I wouldn't call it a stomping.
Print the shirts?
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:35 am to Korin
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Print the shirts?
No thanks. I realize you have probably become accustomed to moral victories but for me a loss is a loss. I was simply responding to the South Carolina fan who called a 7-point loss a "stomping."
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:36 am to RollTide1987
"Well we only lost by 7..."
So yeah, print the shirts.
So yeah, print the shirts.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:37 am to Korin
You'll argue for the sake of arguing, won't you?
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:41 am to gamecocks22
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but once the game got into a rhythm
wtf does this even mean? Why pretend the first half never happened?
I am by no means a Bama fan but it is a reach to call a 42-35 loss a stomping.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:42 am to RollTide1987
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"THE all-time great coach" kind of implies GOAT. It's singular and puts Meyer in a class by himself, thus making it sound like Spurrier is implying he is the greatest to ever coach the game.
If he said "AN all-time great coach" you would have a point.
You watched The Video, right? Go to 11:30 seconds.
"All time" was never used in conjunction with Myers name. "The great coaches won it all this year" and "Big time coaches" were the phrases used to describe these folks, Coach K, Auriemma, Myer, Belichick and Popovich.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:45 am to Lonnie Utah
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"The great coaches won it all this year"
A phrase that still puts Meyer in a status above all other college head coaches.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:50 am to RollTide1987
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A phrase that still puts Meyer in a status above all other college head coaches.
No, because you can have more than one great coach at any one time. Case in point Nick Saban, Jimbo Fisher, Urban Meyer, Mark Dantonio, Bill Snyder, Spurrier, etc, etc. You can make an argument that all of them are GREAT coaches. Ever heard the phrase uttered, "Two great coaches are facing off today...."
If spurrier had said "The greatest coaches won in all this year", your statement would be correct. It's simple English comprehension. Great, Greater, Greatest. If you'd like I could let you borrow one of my 3 y/o's Curious George books. It explains it really well...
This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 10:53 am
Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:50 am to RollTide1987
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THE all-time great coach" kind of implies GOAT. It's singular and puts Meyer in a class by himself, thus making it sound like Spurrier is implying he is the greatest to ever coach the game.
Oh ok. Now I see... you are saying all these things and haven't watched the video..
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:00 am to Lonnie Utah
Your answer was a game played in 2010. His team won.
I speak of today. And if you don't think that there is jelly in OBCs' heart about Saban you decieve your self.
I speak of today. And if you don't think that there is jelly in OBCs' heart about Saban you decieve your self.
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