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re: South Carolina OL Na'ty Rodgers arrested

Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:46 am to
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:46 am to
Show me on the doll where UGA touched you as a child.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5878 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:49 am to
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The incidents you cite result in dismissals from the team which blows up the "Richt is soft on discipline" mouth breather talking point. Honest question: do you think Stephen Garcia would have been allowed to play football for UGA after keying a professor's car?


I've never said Richt was soft on discipline. I was comparing the way Holtz and Spurrier handled their own players.

I don't know what would have happened with Garcia anywhere else. I honestly don't. You can make a valid argument that he would have been dismissed at another school for the keying incident. Conversely, I think you can make a compelling argument that he wouldn't have been kicked out anywhere else, either.

Whatever is going on in Athens, is on Athens. I think Richt handles the situations reasonably well, but for whatever reason that program tends to have more people get in trouble, for more serious offenses, than other places (save Florida, when there's compelling evidence that Hernandez was a murderous psychopath while there). To chalk all of that up to the overzealous nature of the Atlanta media is a little disingenuous, I think.

Is it possible that the kids going to UGA underestimate Richt up front, because of his soft-spoken and gentle demeanor? So, even though history proves that it's not the case, they think they can get away with more because he's seen as being more forgiving? I think this is a more likely explanation for the proliferation of arrests at UGA than is the Atlanta media link.
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
2568 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:51 am to
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Yeah, y'all's Professors are sex offenders and drug addicts.



Hey, stay on topic! We're discussing your ThugPOS lineman that couldn't handle his alcohol.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:54 am to
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Hey, stay on topic! We're discussing your ThugPOS lineman that couldn't handle his alcohol.




My bad, I'll just go make a "How many UGA Professors are going to get arrested this year?" thread.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46422 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:54 am to
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Whatever is going on in Athens, is on Athens.


Since this thread is still going, I figure it's probably also worth mentioning that Athens-Clarke County is a rather bizarre area in terms of law enforcement. ACC is the smallest county in the state and also has three police forces that share jurisdiction. You have the Athens City cops, the ACCPD, and the UGAPD whose jurisdiction is any and all areas surrounding campus (and given that campus buildings are literally scattered all across the county, their jurisdiction is basically limitless). So, three police departments, three separate mouths that need to be fed with citations and arrests. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46422 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:55 am to
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My bad, I'll just go make a "How many UGA Professors are going to get arrested this year?" thread.


Probably not as many as are going to cure cancer
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
2568 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:55 am to
double post
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 10:57 am
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
2568 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:56 am to
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So, three police departments, three separate mouths that need to be fed with citations and arrests. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.


NYC will be here shortly to tell you that more police presence does not result in more arrests.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 11:01 am to
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Since this thread is still going, I figure it's probably also worth mentioning that Athens-Clarke County is a rather bizarre area in terms of law enforcement. ACC is the smallest county in the state and also has three police forces that share jurisdiction. You have the Athens City cops, the ACCPD, and the UGAPD whose jurisdiction is any and all areas surrounding campus (and given that campus buildings are literally scattered all across the county, their jurisdiction is basically limitless). So, three police departments, three separate mouths that need to be fed with citations and arrests. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.


That's the situation in most college towns. University Police, city police and county police/sheriff. UGA isn't unique in that regard.
Posted by FlatwoodsForester
Member since Jul 2012
2568 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 11:08 am to
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That's the situation in most college towns. University Police, city police and county police/sheriff. UGA isn't unique in that regard.



quote:

ACC is the smallest county in the state


You missed this point. You realize Athens is basically the size of the county and the University covers almost the entire county. You basically have three police departments covering the smallest county in Georgia.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 11:10 am
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46422 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 11:18 am to
The point is that all three basically share their jurisdictions because of how small the county is (I can drive from one side of the county to the other in roughly 10 minutes). And that's not even taking into account that part of Athens extends into Oconee County, adding a fourth PD to consider (though they don't carry anywhere near the stingy reputation of the UGAPD or Athens City PD) in a very small area.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 11:22 am to
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You missed this point. You realize Athens is basically the size of the county and the University covers almost the entire county. You basically have three police departments covering the smallest county in Georgia.


Size is irrelevant. It's about ratios:

LEOs per 1000 residents of selected SEC towns

UGA - Athens/CC: 1.97
Auburn - Lee: 1.98
UT - Knox: 2.14
UF - Alachua: 2.32
LSU - E.BR Parish: 2.79
USC - Richland: 2.92
UA - Tuscaloosa: 3.12

So your point on size is irrelevant. Those LEOs in Athens, whoever they answer to, are overworked compared to other SEC towns. If anything your size argument makes UGA look worse.

This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 11:25 am
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46422 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 11:29 am to
Link for the data being used?
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 11:30 am to
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Link for the data being used?


City Data
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 11:35 am to
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which blows up the "Richt is soft on discipline" mouth breather talking point


Umm I don't think anybody is saying Richt is soft on discipline.

Just that you UGA fans that believe yalls players getting arrested are victims of persecution by the media more so than any other SEC team are ridiculous
Posted by adawgj
Brunswick
Member since Oct 2012
1749 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 11:41 am to
What happened to the thread that a USCe poster had on here about GA's arrests this year. Someone bring that one back to life.
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