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re: So why did LSU hire Ed Orgeron again?
Posted on 12/30/16 at 12:30 pm to JuiceTerry
Posted on 12/30/16 at 12:30 pm to JuiceTerry
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So you're saying you have a won't?
Damn...the phone rang when I was typing that crap up and I didn't pay attention once I answered it.
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 12:34 pm to Space Cowboy
quote:You seem slow
We hired Curley again?
I don't know what you are smoking Dude, but if I were you I'd put it up. Damn...I thought I could at least hold an intelligent conversation over here, but I was wrong.
Let me walk you through it
Orgeron is the worst coach in Ole miss history
Yet, we hired him because he was one of us
If bama hired Curley, they would be hiring the worst coach in LSU history, simply because he is one of them(Curley played for Bama)
Sidenote: Curley was a more qualified hire for LSU at the time than Orgeron
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 12/30/16 at 12:43 pm to JuiceTerry
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CEO is 3-1
No
The past is irrelevant if you choose it to be. We are always creating anew in the present moment. The past and future are illusions of time.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 12:45 pm to genuineLSUtiger
quote:So you would be just as happy with Croom as Saban?
he past is irrelevant if you choose it to be. We are always creating anew in the present moment. The past and future are illusions of time.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 12:48 pm to Datbayoubengal
Louisiana is an American state with the social and political culture of Cuba. It is hard to sustain greatness in an environment such as that on a sustained basis. It is what it is.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 12:51 pm to lsupride87
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So you would be just as happy with Croom as Saban?
How did you pull that out of what I posted? I'm saying people evolve over time in life. Orgeron has done the same. He has admitted his past weaknesses and corrected them. He is a better coach now than he was a decade ago. He is evolving as a coach. I think he will surprise a lot of people over the next few years. There is something to be said for achieving your destiny.
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 12/30/16 at 12:51 pm to tigerbait2010
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O was a bad hire on paper, but you guys are crazy to think there's no way this could work.
Of course it COULD work. This is sports, weird shite happens. But this crap is hard as it is. Good coaches fail to win the SEC. Knowing that, why would you go out and get anything less than the very best that you can, "on paper?"
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I know this. O is just as good of a recruiter (probably better) than l
Les was already getting top 5 classes. In all likelihood our recruiting won't be appreciably better than it has been.
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O also seems to know not to hire your best buds and let his hires have autonomy.
You're kidding right? He tried his damndest to hire Kiffin and would have if Kiffin wasn't hell bent on getting a HC job.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 1:07 pm to Bench McElroy
Because Les refused to move to an updated style of offense that would utilize all of the talented skill players on this team. Now, will Coach O be able to do this ? Idk.... but at least he is gonna try. Will it work ? Again, idk??? But the landscape of college football has changed, and Les wouldn't... so, this all remains to be seen. No one can say for certain just yet if it was the right move. But no way this team would have done any better than what they did this season had Les stayed...
Posted on 12/30/16 at 2:12 pm to Goldrush25
I'm not sure what you're getting at. I don't like the O hire either. Still I'm just going in with no expectations and cautiously optimistic that it actually could work. People automatically writing him off are jumping the gun. that's all I'm trying to say.
Also comparing Les going out and hiring Peveto and Cam to O wanting Kiffin is a laugh riot. Kiffin is a spectacular OC that hasn't been fired from his last 6 jobs like Cameron. Technically, yes, O was going after a friend, but this friend might actually be the best OC in college football
Also comparing Les going out and hiring Peveto and Cam to O wanting Kiffin is a laugh riot. Kiffin is a spectacular OC that hasn't been fired from his last 6 jobs like Cameron. Technically, yes, O was going after a friend, but this friend might actually be the best OC in college football
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:02 pm to c on z
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If this was true, then why make the move to eat up Miles buyout now?
because some people with money that paid that buyout wanted a change made. They wanted Herman. Herman bailed on LSU. They made the buyout based on getting their man. They didn't get their man, and had to settle with someone familiar and cheaper.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:22 pm to lsupride87
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You seem slow
If anyone is slow genius, you better take a long hard look in the mirror.
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Let me walk you through it
Orgeron is the worst coach in Ole miss history
His past record at Ole Miss doesn’t have anything to do with anything today unless he was still doing those same stupid mistakes when he was interim head coach at USC and at LSU. Obviously, he wasn’t making those same stupid mistakes. Hence, Orgeron’s so-called worst record at Ole Miss is completely irrelevant. Figure it out; it’s not rocket science.
The only thing it amounted to in the end was a very valuable learning lesson for him of how not to coach. I’m glad unlike Miles; Orgeron was cable of learning from his past mistakes, and since he no longer makes those same mistakes anymore, those mistakes are no longer relevant. It would be a completely different story if he did the same damn thing, but since he doesn’t, it’s completely irrelevant.
Indeed, it can only be relevant if he continues to make those same stupid mistakes, but he hasn’t continued to make those same stupid mistakes. Hence, his past coaching record while at Ole Miss is irrelevant. In fact, your unhinged obsession with those past mistakes, which he no longer makes anymore, indicates that you are biased against Coach Orgeron. Therefore, that is your problem, not my problem. I couldn’t care less about your unhinged obsessions.
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If bama hired Curley, they would be hiring the worst coach in LSU history, simply because he is one of them(Curley played for Bama)
You and your unhinged obsession with Alabama hiring Curley indicates to me that you have more than just a few cards short of making up a full deck Dude.
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Sidenote: Curley was a more qualified hire for LSU at the time than Orgeron
With all due disrespect dude, you are more than just a little retarded. You are beyond hope. All I have to say is there is no way I will ever believe you graduated from LSU.
Not to mention, that all of the former players, the current players, and the recruits were all collectively together lobbying for Coach Orgeron to be given the job. It was only a few naïve lunatics like you morons obsessed with irrelevant stupid shite that wanted to disrupt the hiring and the recruiting process forever so that they could try to convince us that we should hire an unproven up and comer offensive coach with no proven experience that would inevitably turn out to be the next Curly Hallman. Yeah right.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:39 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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No,he isn't elite. Tennessee fans said the same thing, in the off season, about Shoop. I said then, even on this board, that he was in no way a great defensive coordinator. They learned it to be so.
Canada may be decent, but in no way is he elite. If he was that great, Orgeron wouldn't have waited, in vain, for Lane Kiffin to sign on, before settling for Canada after Kiffin did not.
Not saying Canada is elite; saying that is the plan being put forth by the LSU powers-that-be.
Having said that, I do think there are reasons to be bullish on Canada:
-He took the Pitt offense from 9th in the ACC in scoring before he got there (2015) to 2nd in the ACC in 2016, putting more points on the board than the likes of more-talented Clemson and FSU.
-He took Nathan Peterman, who was dreadful at Tennessee and pretty average at Pitt in 2015, and turned him into a guy who led the ACC in QBR in 2016.
-Watching film of the Pitt offense this year, they used a lot of shifts, motions, and misdirection - concepts that were shunned by the Les Miles regime. With the athletes LSU typically recruits, we should be able to finally get our dudes out in space more often.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:42 pm to Space Cowboy
quote:Curley was carried off the field by his players at LSU in support of him to stay. The LSU team in 88 lobbied for Archer
Not to mention, that all of the former players, the current players, and the recruits were all collectively together lobbying for Coach Orgeron to be given the job
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:58 pm to JCinBAMA
keep thinking that you dumb arse hick.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 4:00 pm to Bench McElroy
Prolly so some gump could start a thread a month later. Plan worked.
Geaux Tigers
Geaux Tigers
Posted on 12/30/16 at 4:56 pm to DAbully
Nothing but mouth! I guess u think your smart arse regurgitated shite makes u something. Why not wait and see them run your mouth like a little girl
Posted on 12/30/16 at 5:09 pm to memphisplaya
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Les was still at LSU we lose to Ole Miss and Arkansas as well.
I completely disagree. Those teams aren't very good. Knowing Les, he prob pulls some bs trick play that half arse works against UF and beats them.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 5:57 pm to Bench McElroy
Cuz F$U's coach wasn't leaving Tallahassee. Oh, and because Orgeron wasn't Les Miles.
Give O the Coach a chance before you hate on him. He just might be good.
Give O the Coach a chance before you hate on him. He just might be good.
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