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Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:06 pm to skirpnasty
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:06 pm to skirpnasty
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They aren't iMessages apparently, Instagram DM's.
Have you ever dm'd on Instagram? Looks nothing like that. The only thing that came from was the iMessage app for a tablet.
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Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:07 pm to lsufball19
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actually they can. there are these things called phone records that can verify such things.
Which brings up an interesting point.
The NCAA has no subpoena power, so Tunsil can basically tell the NCAA to screw off.
However, the staff member in question would come under the NCAA's jurisdiction. Either the messages are real or they are not. If they are not, then at the very least, it's grounds for defamation. I'm not a lawyer, but I would assume their are possibly criminal charges for hacking and faking someone's identity as well.
I think you almost have to pursue a lawsuit if you are Ole Miss as it is the best way to maybe regain control of the message (see last week and the Whole Food "Gay Cake" episode). I think if you don't do that, then there would be reason to believe that they may be real. That isn't saying that they are real, but it does make it seem to push the narrative in that direction.
It will be interesting to see what the university does in the next day or two.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:07 pm to pankReb
I haven't, just relaying what I've read.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:08 pm to narddogg81
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Also, if there were any kinds of documentation that tunsil was getting ncaa legal assistance, those documents would have been made public within a milisecond of him saying he took money from an ole miss coach
Why? Ole miss doesn't have to answer to anyone but the NCAA.
And if tunsil needed that assistance...you can be assured that the NCAA has already seen it.
Why would we want to put out personal information of our current or former players like that?
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:08 pm to narddogg81
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Oh man, the level of delusion in here is off the charts.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:10 pm to LuciusSulla
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I'm not a lawyer, but I would assume their are possibly criminal charges for hacking and faking someone's identity as well.
I am, and it's a felony
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I think you almost have to pursue a lawsuit if you are Ole Miss as it is the best way to maybe regain control of the message
Ole Miss has no legal standing to sue if it was Tunsil's accounts that was hacked. The staff members could potentially sue, but then they'd have to prove the messages were false to prevail on defamation. They also have to find the hacker before they can do anything
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:12 pm to lsufball19
This thread is retard level delusion.
The guy admits taking money from coaches. ESPN is blasting the quote all day. Espn radio hasn't shut up about it. But we are the idiots.
Ok, ole miss fans
The guy admits taking money from coaches. ESPN is blasting the quote all day. Espn radio hasn't shut up about it. But we are the idiots.
Ok, ole miss fans
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:12 pm to pankReb
My bad Pank, I read IG but those are Twitter DM's. Go to your Twitter and look at DM's.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:13 pm to lsufball19
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What happened last night is about as bad as it gets.
This
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:14 pm to pankReb
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Why? Ole miss doesn't have to answer to anyone but the NCAA.
OM is getting killed by the national media. If they had a way to slow or stop all this- they would have released it to everyone at 8am this morning. They dont have one.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:15 pm to lsufball19
It's only against the law if the person actually altered software or exploits to get into the account. If it was his buddy next door who happened to know his password and logged in that way, it is not a crime. Now he could possibly have a civil case against the person if he can prove that it actually damaged him financially.
If you read the Ts&Cs of almost all social media outlets, they state plainly that your account is technically theirs.
Hacking becomes a felony if the hacker alters the software in any form or causes a DOS issue to a server.
Impersonating someone online is not against the law.
If you read the Ts&Cs of almost all social media outlets, they state plainly that your account is technically theirs.
Hacking becomes a felony if the hacker alters the software in any form or causes a DOS issue to a server.
Impersonating someone online is not against the law.
This post was edited on 4/29/16 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:16 pm to AshLSU
It's still a crime whether they happened to know the pw or not. Statutes will generally differ from state to state but it's generally any unauthorized use
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:19 pm to RebelExpress38
I think most of us understand the NCAA is a crapshoot and Ole Miss may skate, but we like to give y'all shite about death penalty-level sanctions.
However,
is some absurd thinking.
Riddle me this - if they're fake, but you misspoke on national TV and said they were real and you took money, how long would it take you to come out and recant? How many national talk shows and Sportscenters need to lead with this story before you clarify your comments?
The story is on CNN, Yahoo!, CNBC, etc. Does that seem like something you would want across the country if it wasn't true?
No comment that it was fake. No comment that he misspoke. Nothing.
Ole Miss may skate, but make no mistake, you paid Tunsil and those texts are real.
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Same thing when they figure out the text messages are fake
is some absurd thinking.
Riddle me this - if they're fake, but you misspoke on national TV and said they were real and you took money, how long would it take you to come out and recant? How many national talk shows and Sportscenters need to lead with this story before you clarify your comments?
The story is on CNN, Yahoo!, CNBC, etc. Does that seem like something you would want across the country if it wasn't true?
No comment that it was fake. No comment that he misspoke. Nothing.
Ole Miss may skate, but make no mistake, you paid Tunsil and those texts are real.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:21 pm to lsufball19
You can't prove unauthorized use if they know the password. That's what passwords are for.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:21 pm to slackster
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I think most of us understand the NCAA is a crapshoot and Ole Miss may skate, but we like to give y'all shite about death penalty-level sanctions
Dont get me wrong....id be doing the exact same shite.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:21 pm to AshLSU
yes you can
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:21 pm to CoonassBulldog
Agreed. They would have mentioned this morning they had the proper papers for financial assistance if they had any. Not saying they would release the specific information on the papers but just to say they assisted legally.
This could hurt their recruiting very badly and not making a statement of having the proper papers is telling me they don't have them. IMO.
This could hurt their recruiting very badly and not making a statement of having the proper papers is telling me they don't have them. IMO.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:22 pm to lsufball19
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Ole Miss has no legal standing to sue if it was Tunsil's accounts that was hacked. The staff members could potentially sue, but then they'd have to prove the messages were false to prevail on defamation. They also have to find the hacker before they can do anything
When I say the university, I mean the staff member. I should have been more clear. Having dealt with this end of things at another uni in the past, while the university might not directly sue, general counsel would more than likely assist in the staff member's litigation in one way or another if they feel it is in the university's best (financial) interest. My speculation is that if they have a reason to believe a staff member has been a victim of fraud that in turn hurts the university's brand, they may find supporting a law suit to be in their best financial interest.
If I'm the PR flack involved, I'm definitely trying to find out how confident we are the messages are fake and at least mentioning a possible criminal investigation even if it isn't certain.
Truth be told though, I don't think they were fake.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:22 pm to AshLSU
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You can't prove unauthorized use if they know the password. That's what passwords are for.
So I figure out your password to your online bank account and transfer all your money to my account.
I have nothing to worry about, right?
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:23 pm to slackster
Ole miss needs some elite nfl player to die or a bus crash killing an entire team to keep themselves off the news outlets right now
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