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re: So the Alabama targeting play last night

Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:20 pm to
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bullshite. Show me the rule where it says that.



An opponent. He does not have to be "defenseless", ball does not have to be "live" either.

Rule 9-1-3: Targeting and initiating contact with the crown of the helmet. No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.

Rule 9-1-4: Targeting and initiating contact to head or neck area of a defenseless player. No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, fist, elbow or
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9111 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:21 pm to
"I just want to see a level playing field."

Where was your argument of a level playing field when JFF got horse collared with no call and when Georgia wasn't given a fumble that they clearly recovered? You were probably too busy looking for the next Bama led conspiracy on ITAT to notice. Typical.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:23 pm to
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ule 9-1-3: Targeting and initiating contact with the crown of the helmet. No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.


Jones's helmet went into the guys shoulder. His shoulder pads went into his chest. LEGAL.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Where was your argument of a level playing field when JFF got horse collared with no call and when Georgia wasn't given a fumble that they clearly recovered? You were probably too busy looking for the next Bama led conspiracy on ITAT to notice. Typical.


A&M got plenty of calls go their way during the game and UGA got plenty too. UGA wasn't given a fumble because the both had possession of the ball. I would like to see the NCAA put a rule in the book to eject any player that dogpiles a fumble and creates more chaos. There is no reason for the last 4 guys to jump on top of 2 guys that have possession of the ball.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:25 pm to
Blew his arse up.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24947 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:27 pm to
Live ball and his helmet did not hit the receivers helmet.

Next?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

UGA wasn't given a fumble because the both had possession of the ball.
To say the Auburn player had at least 30% possession of the ball is being generous.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24933 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:28 pm to
They have been calling helmet to the chest as targeting. Not sure why that was not called.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37683 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:29 pm to
The top of his helmet uppercut the State player under the facemask. It was definitely head/neck area. Led with the crown too.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:31 pm to
Nope. Helmet went into his shoulder.

Again, can someone please provide some evidence of that exact kind of play being flagged this season? Thnx.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37683 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:32 pm to
Uppercut the facemask
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:33 pm to
The view from the other angle clearly shows his helmet didn't hit the facemask.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:34 pm to
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Uppercut the facemask



Nope.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24933 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:34 pm to


Nebraska player ejected for targeting.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:35 pm to
Is that in reply to my post? That is not the exact same type of play. That is a DB hitting a WR.

Try again?
Posted by ThaKaptin
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:36 pm to
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Was there seriously no flag here? Can anyone explain this away?


Its very obvious when watching the gif you posted, he led with the shoulder first off. This is obvious because he is facing the camera which is on the sidelines, not straight ahead at the player.

secondly, its also obvious that he hit him square in the chest.

Targeting is hitting above the shoulders first and foremost and also leading with the helmet. Neither of these things happened, therefore it is just a vicious but legal hit.

Any claim that it should have been flagged is wrong.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24933 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:36 pm to
Does the targeting rule change for kickoffs?
Posted by ztownbird
Trump, USA
Member since Oct 2012
991 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:37 pm to
Trae Elston was suspended for a game for a much less vicious hit last year against UTEP.
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

The top of his helmet uppercut the State player under the facemask. It was definitely head/neck area. Led with the crown too.



this is obscenely false, his helmet wasnt even pointed at the player, he pointed it to the side so as to not hit with it. He hit with his shoulder and if hit in this chest, not anywhere near the facemask.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:39 pm to
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Does the targeting rule change for kickoffs?



It is a completely different situation. The guy was fair game to be annihilated, seeing as how it was a kickoff and possession hadn't been attained by anyone yet. Should have called a fair catch. He left himself out to dry.
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