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re: So the Alabama targeting play last night
Posted on 11/17/13 at 11:32 pm to RTR America
Posted on 11/17/13 at 11:32 pm to RTR America
Bear Bryant is my spirit animal.
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Posted on 11/18/13 at 8:58 am to RTR America
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The ball is live
The rules have zero to do with a "live" ball claim. In fact, it has nothing to do with helmet to helmet.
The rule states clearly the all it takes is for a player to lower his head and lead with his helmet.
All you see in the replay is the "Crown" of his helmet. By definition, targeting.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 8:59 am to darkhorse
Well in that case we will give him the next game off to ponder his actions.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:07 am to Schwaaz
He used his shoulder. Just because he puts his head down to toward the ground doesnt mean he's leading with the crown of his helmet. He hit with his shoulder. It was a solid hit that was timed perfectly. This is why you fair catch it. If not you're open to get laid down by someone running from 40 yards out straight at you. Just because a hit is hard or it hurts another player doesn't mean it's targeting. Targeting penalty should be called when it's absolutely obvious someone was targeting. This dude was not. I'm not even sure if his helmet even hit the State players helmet.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:17 am to Bamad
Targeting and Initiating Contact With the Crown of the Helmet
ARTICLE 3. No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent
with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. (Rule 9-6)
(A.R. 9-1-3-I)
It was his helmet.. the crown of it.
Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:
• Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward
thrust of the body to make contact in the head or neck area
• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with contact at the head
or neck area—even though one or both feet are still on the ground
• Leading with helmet, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with contact at the head or
neck area
• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating contact with the crown of the helmet
He targeted by definition.
other angle that shows he did crouch before launching
It also shows that yes, he did hit first with the crown of his helmet.... in slow motion. It shows the impact to the facemask with the crown of the helmet.
Noway around it, it's targeting.
ARTICLE 3. No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent
with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul. (Rule 9-6)
(A.R. 9-1-3-I)
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per funky tide in another thread
Just watched it again. Jones puts his helmet in the returners shoulder,
It was his helmet.. the crown of it.
Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:
• Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward
thrust of the body to make contact in the head or neck area
• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with contact at the head
or neck area—even though one or both feet are still on the ground
• Leading with helmet, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with contact at the head or
neck area
• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating contact with the crown of the helmet
He targeted by definition.
other angle that shows he did crouch before launching
It also shows that yes, he did hit first with the crown of his helmet.... in slow motion. It shows the impact to the facemask with the crown of the helmet.
Noway around it, it's targeting.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:40 am to ThreauxDown11
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He used his shoulder. Just because he puts his head down to toward the ground doesnt mean he's leading with the crown of his helmet.
YEs he did. Watch it in slow motion:
1- He crouches
2- he launches upward.
3- Watch the the facemask of MSU guy. It turns to the right.
4- Watch 22 for bama.. His HEAD clearly is also jarred to the left.
He lowered and led with the crown of his helmet. It hit the facemask of MSU player. The result was both players heads moved to opposite directions.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 11:32 am to darkhorse
1) All these fricking people that are to stupid to figure out this is not a punt by page 10, well, ignorance is not even the word to describe you.
2) You fricking Bama fans are delusional. Of course you have never done anything wrong and should never be flagged for anything.
3) Led with the crown of his helmet = targeting.
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2) You fricking Bama fans are delusional. Of course you have never done anything wrong and should never be flagged for anything.
3) Led with the crown of his helmet = targeting.
/thread
Posted on 11/18/13 at 5:36 pm to DynastyDawg
REC refs? 
Posted on 11/18/13 at 6:13 pm to TutHillTiger
We're everywhere.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 8:26 pm to stat19
Where did you learn to read it?
Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:23 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Really two points being debated. Whether Jones arrived early (KCI) and whether Jones arrived head first (personal foul/targeting). I think Jones caught a break.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:33 pm to TroyTider
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(KCI)
doesnt apply to kickoffs.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:34 pm to FleshEatingSalsa
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If you think that was above the shoulders, I don't know what to tell you
I think there was clearly helmet to helmet contact on that play.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:35 pm to Funky Tide 8
Looks legit to me...fair catch the ball next time and you wont get crushed
Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:37 pm to Funky Tide 8
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quote:
(KCI)
doesnt apply to kickoffs.
Yes, it does.
quote:
Interference With Opportunity
ARTICLE 1. a. A player of the receiving team within the boundary lines attempting to catch a kick, and so located that he could have caught a free kick or a scrimmage kick that is beyond the neutral zone, must be given an unimpeded opportunity to catch the kick
Dumbass
Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:40 pm to arrakis
So, why then, is this penalty NEVER called?
frick you.
frick you.
This post was edited on 11/18/13 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:46 pm to DynastyDawg
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All these fricking people that are to stupid to figure out
Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:51 pm to arrakis
Read page 72. Protection terminates when ball hits the ground on kickoff.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:59 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Thought that was Mosely. Don't keep up with bama much and have only watched them a couple of times this year.
Oh yeah, and forgot you guys have another cupcake next week. Honestly, bama football has been pretty unwatchable this year with all the cupcakes.
Auburn football has been so watchable because of all the juggernauts you've played this year but I've forgotten who they are.....please remind me?????
Posted on 11/19/13 at 6:29 am to thatdude1985
The guy got lit up. Legally. And all the whining here won't change it.
Perfect tackle just like you teach it,lead with the shoulder and the impact was below the head and neck whether you delusional haters think it was or not.
You can't take all hits out of football,might as well put a flag on them and take off the pads and helmets.
You grab a bouncing ball you might get hit.
Perfect tackle just like you teach it,lead with the shoulder and the impact was below the head and neck whether you delusional haters think it was or not.
You can't take all hits out of football,might as well put a flag on them and take off the pads and helmets.
You grab a bouncing ball you might get hit.
This post was edited on 11/19/13 at 6:30 am
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