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re: So Tennessee tried to cheat... and still lost?
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:43 am to madmaxvol
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:43 am to madmaxvol
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in a formation for more than three seconds.
LOL. Like SEC refs can keep track of that.
Were we in the formation for 3 seconds? Did we cheat before being cheated?
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:43 am to roadGator
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Did the refs signal for the clock to stop? Don't the refs keep the official clock on the field at that point in the game?
One signaled to stop the clock and the other signaled to wind the clock. Butch was apparently told the clock would stop, and it didn't.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:46 am to ForeverGator
maybe some of you will get on board and realize the sec refs are an embarrassment. I know LSU fans bitch about the refs, But I bitch about the officiating in a lot more games not involving LSU.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:47 am to roadGator
I am messing around even though OP is a shite poster. If the tables were turned and we would've won, UT posters would be insufferable. I have many opinions on this game, but the fact is y'all won.
I imagine you don't get to use it very often, but hopefully you can squeeze in into your vernacular from time to time to help bring it back. I do that with count and there are many here that I can apply it to so it's easy to keep it alive.
I imagine you don't get to use it very often, but hopefully you can squeeze in into your vernacular from time to time to help bring it back. I do that with count and there are many here that I can apply it to so it's easy to keep it alive.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:49 am to roadGator
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in a formation for more than three seconds.
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LOL. Like SEC refs can keep track of that.
Were we in the formation for 3 seconds? Did we cheat before being cheated?
With your defense, if they are inside of the hash mark, then they are in formation. I would say that would be pretty easy to determine.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:51 am to JPenn91
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Actually you know what? State shouldn't have even run their last 2-3 plays. Go back and watch. The clock was stopped for a solid 9 or 10 seconds when it should have been running Shite was pissing me off. Only reason no one knows about it is because we won. Surprised we didn't see any of our fans bitching on here about it
Ehh, i know what you are talking about, was more like 3 seconds. I was screaming at the tv as well. Set the ball, but never started the clock.
My point remains the same. The refs suck. If you or I made this many mistakes at our Job, we would have been looking for a new one a long time ago.
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 11:57 am
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:54 am to madmaxvol
Link to the video available? I'd like to see this incompetence.
I'm not doubting it.
I'm not doubting it.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:06 pm to madmaxvol
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One signaled to stop the clock and the other signaled to wind the clock. Butch was apparently told the clock would stop, and it didn't.
Not trying to start a pissing contest with you, but I think the clock was signaled to stop b/c it was a first down. Once the chains were set the clock was started. So while the ref did signal for the clock to stop it was for a first down, not out of bounds. I think that might have caused the confusion either on the ref's part in explaining it to Butch or in Butch's understanding of what the ref was saying.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:10 pm to roadGator
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Link to the video available? I'd like to see this incompetence.
55:43...ref signals wind the clock, then signals stop the clock with 11 seconds left. Clock continues to run (even though the player is tackled out of bounds).
Tennessee snaps the ball with 3 seconds left and gets a substitution penalty (even though when they snap it, they didn't break the huddle, the player didn't pass the numbers and was completely off the field when the ball was snapped).
56:52 Tennessee snaps the ball with 12 Florida players on the field. Ref blows whistle and signals to stop the clock after the kick is made to signal Florida timeout.
56:59 Back Judge is seen counting Florida players on the field, but does not throw flag.
LINK
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:12 pm to Homespun
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So while the ref did signal for the clock to stop it was for a first down, not out of bounds
Could be...but the video clearly shows that the player got out of bounds. It should have stopped the clock.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:23 pm to madmaxvol
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Could be...but the video clearly shows that the player got out of bounds. It should have stopped the clock.
If a defender forces the runner out of bounds the clock does not stop. #82 was forced out by Neal #42. This is the rule. Danielson even explains it in the broadcast.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:26 pm to G8RnGA
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No need to make them feel worse than they already do at this point.
Meh. It's hump day after the game. I figured why not one last dig about it before switching focus to Ole Miss.
Plus they're Tennessee fans, they should always be made fun of and feel worse than they already do.
Especially Vols&Shaft.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:26 pm to ForeverGator
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ForeverGator
wow ur dick must be tiny if you think that is 4-5 YARDS.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:29 pm to madmaxvol
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Yes, he got lucky. If you have 12 men on the field and the ball is in "ready position", a timeout isn't supposed to prevent the penalty being called.
"Rule 3-5-3
ARTICLE 3. a. Team A may not break the huddle with more than 11 players nor keep more
than 11 players in the huddle or in a formation for more than three seconds. Officials shall stop
the action whether or not the ball has been snapped."
I just watched the replay to see. You could be right here. I guess it's iffy. Looked like three defensive players were not all set, moving around trying to figure out what to do, probably because there was an extra person and they were confused. Not sure if that would be considered "in formation for more than three seconds" considering they were moving. But they were definitely all clearly directly in front of the kick team. Just not sure on how "formation" is interpreted in kicking situations. Certainly possible the refs blew it.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:30 pm to Cruiserhog
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ur dick must be tiny if you think that is 4-5 YARDS.
He's the consummate shameless, little dicked, upvote fisherman.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:31 pm to Homespun
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Could be...but the video clearly shows that the player got out of bounds. It should have stopped the clock.
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If a defender forces the runner out of bounds the clock does not stop. #82 was forced out by Neal #42. This is the rule. Danielson even explains it in the broadcast.
Except, in the video, you can see that the TE drags the defender out of bounds...the defender didn't force him out of bounds. He struggles to take 2 steps towards the sideline after the defender is on him. So, while that is the rule, it would not have been applicable in this case.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:33 pm to Homespun
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Certainly possible the refs blew it.
The refs definitely blew it...they blew a ton of calls on both sides on Saturday. Tennessee benefited from a couple of bad calls, as well...and, it was the refs that moved the spot inside of the hashmark prior to the second kick. They had a horrible day.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:37 pm to ForeverGator
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So Tennessee tried to cheat... and still lost
Yeah that's because Florida is just an unstoppable force this year.. you know they are 4-0, right?
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:38 pm to Jacknola
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God doesn't like cheaters, and he sent that last second gust of wind just before the ball reached the goal post. You can see the ribbon on top of the post suddenly flutter to the right, carrying the ball wide.
Moral is... don't cheat and don't mess with the REC.
The ball don't lie...
That last minute wind was epic. I said the same thing about the ribbon to my hubby.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:40 pm to madmaxvol
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Except, in the video, you can see that the TE drags the defender out of bounds...the defender didn't force him out of bounds. He struggles to take 2 steps towards the sideline after the defender is on him. So, while that is the rule, it would not have been applicable in this case.
I guess we just need to agree to disagree. I see him hitting #82 and forcing him out. #82 doesn't drag him. Not that he's the arbiter of all things but Danielson agreed and the refs agreed that it was a force out. Seems clear to me watching it in replay several times, too.
As to your other post, agreed. They blew calls for both teams all day. The replay official was garbage, too.
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