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re: So about Sark and Freshwater

Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by BamaAlum97
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2015
172 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:08 pm to
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As an analyst, Sarkisian can watch film of games and practice and provide input on the overall direction of the team, including the game plan. He is, however, not allowed to have a hands-on coaching role, interacting with players on the football field.


He is not allowed to :
(b) Makes or assists in making tactical decisions related to the sport during on-court or on-field practice or competition



Would making a suggestion about the second half game plan be allowed versus calling or suggesting specific play call?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30212 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:08 pm to
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My guess is it'd be something towards the program and reducing the off-field staff or something along those lines, and it would 100% lead to stricter rules on non-on field coaches (which will probably happen soon anyway).



Rather than enforce more fricking rules and impose stricter rules, why the hell doesn't every team just load on off-field staffers?

shite, it can do nothing but help your program to have a different set of eyes on the field analyzing the execution and productivity. We are ALL rich, just load up on 'em.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:08 pm to
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So the question is, if Sark is not on the field, has he participated in "on field activities", and if all he does is pass along information, has he "assisted in making tactical decisions"?


Are you trying to argue that Sark could call the plays from his couch and he wouldn't be counted as a coach?

Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:10 pm to
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Would making a suggestion about the second half game plan be allowed versus calling or suggesting specific play call?


Good question.

I've always wondered if CFB has groups or consulting firms writing white papers on the interpretation of guidelines and rules. For instance, when the FASB releases a new Accounting Standard our firm generally has experts review and release interpretations of the ruling with examples, application, etc.

Somebody has to do this for college sports, right? Does each school have a person who does this?
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 3:13 pm
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35445 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:12 pm to
Sark is in the booth for Bama FWIW.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72177 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:16 pm to
This thread is your fault.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35445 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:17 pm to
I accept that
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
23884 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:18 pm to
Meh, the NCAA can make another Saban rule. They're due for another one.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59609 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:33 pm to
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You sir, have fine tastes



but I eat nutria

Posted by Snoopdog
Member since Oct 2016
42 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:35 pm to
Every college program has an astounding number of support staff, allot of these staffers are responsible for analyzing what they are seeing and reporting to their superior. In this case Sark. To Kiffen. I'm confident that he has influenced half time decisions in not just the Auburn game but in all of them. The same happens at every game around the country.
Welcome to today's college football
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:36 pm to
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but I eat nutria




This should be your sig

Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:38 pm to
Why does bama have to cheat at everything

Jesus
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
2964 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:48 pm to
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What are the repercussions for a violation of that kind?


Death Penalty, I knew we couldn't trust this Sark guy.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98952 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:52 pm to
I can't help but envision this scenario like Vince and his Dad from Friday Night Lights where the coaching is standing in front of them, turns to the booster, and says, "If you see Vince and his Dad let him know..." to get around the no contact rule.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19054 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:55 pm to
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Analysts cant be involved in any decisions during a game. Rules are pretty clear


These rules don't apply to Bama... like when they had like three over the limit personnel in the coaches box that were there for stealing signs. Their excuse was that they were just runners etc. Did not know runners needed binoculars.

Funny that after their hand was called on that they quit doing it...
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62754 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:59 pm to
It's pretty well known that refs take your advice during games , and that is a clear violation.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14481 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:18 pm to
What violation? We're Bama, we do what we want. You of all people should know this.

In all seriousness, maybe Sark had presented suggestions for the game plan during preparation that had largely been ignored in the first half and Saban enforced those after the break. That to me is just as probable, if not moreso, than Sark drawing things up on the grease board at halftime.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 4:23 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 5:03 pm to
quote:


It's pretty well known that refs take your advice during games , and that is a clear violation.


Obviously not

Otherwise there wouldn't be such a disparity in discretionary penalties in favor of Bama instead of LSU

Honestly I'm impressed by Sabans mafia-like grip on CFB. He really is the GOAT.
Posted by doghouse_4x4
Tidewater, Va.
Member since Dec 2013
1328 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 5:13 pm to
Precisely
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 5:25 pm to
Sure they can.
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