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Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:17 pm to bmy
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I think you're being obtuse intentionally.
No, I'm doing what a rational person who is pushing the limit would do and reviewing the facts at hand like an auditor/rules enforcer of the situation would do.
And, like I said above, they clearly know (from interpretation and discussion with the people who create and enforce those rules) what is clearly out of bounds. I didn't say it was right or living by the spirit of the law, but I'm telling you that I can guarantee they knew exactly what and how they were doing it and why it would not be an issue.
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:17 pm to bmy
the bigger question is....What Would Butch Do ?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:18 pm to Bamadiver
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In the coaches meeting in the locker at halftime: Sark: "Coach..." Saban: "Yes" Sark: "Tell Kiffin to stop throwing behind the LOS and run the ball." Saban: "Yep" No violation whatsoever.
That actually would be a violation, and a pretty clear one. And one that we'd never do because we have 47 people keeping tabs on that kind of stuff.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:18 pm to bmy
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I think you're being obtuse intentionally.
If I make observations during a game and you use that information to make a decision by definition I assisted you.
THIS. Let another SEC school do this and the stupid arse SEC would interject to stop it immediately regardless if it is against NCAA rules.
As long as it is a "darling" program, then the SEC turns a blind eye. You better believe if they wanted to stop it, they would in a heartbeat.
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:19 pm to bmy
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I think you're being obtuse intentionally.
Tell you what...since this is obviously of high interest to you, since you started the thread, why don't you go Google the appropriate NCAA rules regarding consultants and what they can and can't do and then post for everyone to see? You're the one alleging that there was a violation...and maybe there was...but why don't you post the rules?
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:20 pm to 33inNC
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Let another SEC school do this and the stupid arse SEC would interject to stop it immediately regardless if it is against NCAA rules.
Good gosh
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:20 pm to cajunbama
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Who said this?
He was lurking the Bama board and read Magilla Guerilla's posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:23 pm to bmy
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What are the repercussions for a violation of that kind?
Sark was simply consulting...giving his opinion on the shitty offensive effort in the first half.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:24 pm to TidenUP
Saban hired this guy as special assistant to the Head coach
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:24 pm to Triple Daves
No.
As an analyst, Sarkisian can watch film of games and practice and provide input on the overall direction of the team, including the game plan. He is, however, not allowed to have a hands-on coaching role, interacting with players on the football field.
As an analyst, Sarkisian can watch film of games and practice and provide input on the overall direction of the team, including the game plan. He is, however, not allowed to have a hands-on coaching role, interacting with players on the football field.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:25 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
Well, he was right. We needed to run the ball
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:30 pm to Bamadiver
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As an analyst, Sarkisian can watch film of games and practice and provide input on the overall direction of the team, including the game plan. He is, however, not allowed to have a hands-on coaching role, interacting with players on the football field.
He is not allowed to :
(b) Makes or assists in making tactical decisions related to the sport during on-court or on-field practice or competition
So, again, it's a grey area. However, walking up to Saban and telling him what we did sucked and it should change is pretty close to being a definite "assistance for a tactical decision".
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:30 pm to Bamadiver
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As an analyst, Sarkisian can watch film of games and practice and provide input on the overall direction of the team, including the game plan. He is, however, not allowed to have a hands-on coaching role, interacting with players on the football field.
There's obviously a grey area in regards to when and where they can interact with the coaching staff during the game. Sark wouldn't even be in the locker room otherwise.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:31 pm to bmy
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What are the repercussions for a violation of that kind?
. It's BamaPosted on 12/1/16 at 2:32 pm to Triple Daves
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That actually would be a violation, and a pretty clear one. And one that we'd never do because we have 47 people keeping tabs on that kind of stuff.
Maybe Sark just wondered aloud: "Damn...wonder why Lane isn't running it between the tackles more...Auburn can't stop it...that's what I would do...."
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:32 pm to bmy
It would be as simple as stating hypotheticals. "If I were still coaching at USC, I would think about (fill in the blank)."
You're smart enough to know how stuff like that works. It seems you're the one being obtuse.
You're smart enough to know how stuff like that works. It seems you're the one being obtuse.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:33 pm to 14&Counting
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Maybe Sark just wondered aloud: "Damn...wonder why Lane isn't running it between the tackles more...Auburn can't stop it...that's what I would do...."
Maybe Sark texted that to his mom on a big phone screen held up in front of the staff.
Or maybe Sark started watching a youtube video on the "Virtues of Running vs Passing" and had the volume really loud.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:34 pm to bmy
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So a few reputable bama insiders
who? how reputable? are they more reputable than the lsu insiders who nailed the coaching situation, less reputable, or the same?
You can't believe every post you see online. What likely happened, some Bama fan knows Kiffin is leaving and Sark is the OC (as pretty much all of the CFB universe sees). Said Bama fan, in attempt to paint the new OC in a better light, claims that he is the reason for the offensive success against AU and not the current/soon-to-be-former OC.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:34 pm to Tuscaloosa
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You're smart enough to know how stuff like that works. It seems you're the one being obtuse.
Exactly - the point it, like many things in life, it probably brushes up against the line and is done in a way that is not traceable and is technically within the letter of the law.
It isn't illegal and it isn't provable. Pretty simple.
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