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Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:34 pm to Triple Daves
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:34 pm to Triple Daves
Define tactical.
As someone else already said, this whole thread is moot. Saban would already know precisely what is allowed.
As someone else already said, this whole thread is moot. Saban would already know precisely what is allowed.
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:36 pm to Bamadiver
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Define tactical.
Exactly.
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Saban would already know precisely what is allowed.
And has had his people make it clear to everyone what is and isn't allowable to keep away from anything that would trigger issues.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:36 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Tell you what...since this is obviously of high interest to you, since you started the thread, why don't you go Google the appropriate NCAA rules regarding consultants and what they can and can't do and then post for everyone to see? You're the one alleging that there was a violation...and maybe there was...but why don't you post the rules?
I never said any of this happened. I asked what repercussions exist IF the violation occurred.
I also already posted a part of the rule that would seem to suggest that the story (as told) would represent a violation
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:36 pm to RB10
How he tells the coaches may be important as well. He probably can't say, "We need to run play X because the corner keeps turning his hips the wrong way." He could probably say, "The corner keeps turning his hips the wrong way when our WR does a double move." One is just stating a fact. The other is giving direct input on how to run the offense.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:36 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
Forget about the guy in the houndstooth hat, those are some pretty sweet nachos.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:37 pm to bmy
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I asked what repercussions exist IF the violation occurred.
My guess would be that there is no set punishment - probably something along the lines of prohibition of analysts or reduction of non-on field staff? Not sure it's ever been punished because it's so small a thing, new a thing and something that could only be proven if a staff was insanely obtuse, blatant and left a blazing trail of evidence.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:40 pm to bmy
Good 'ol Nick Belichick. Lol
practice with former nfl players
Hire former HCs as "analyst" and "Grad Assts".
Bumps into recruits during dead period.
He IS to be worshipped. Nobody does it better.
practice with former nfl players
Hire former HCs as "analyst" and "Grad Assts".
Bumps into recruits during dead period.
He IS to be worshipped. Nobody does it better.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:42 pm to Tuscaloosa
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It would be as simple as stating hypotheticals. "If I were still coaching at USC, I would think about (fill in the blank)."
You're smart enough to know how stuff like that works. It seems you're the one being obtuse.
Did his idle comments assist a coach in making a personnel or on the field-related decision? If it did then he provided assistance. It's not a hard concept.
You guys watch too much TV. None of this would hold up in front of a judge
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:42 pm to bmy
I was 'back stage' after the show and I didn't see anything.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:43 pm to tigercreole
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practice with former nfl players
Legal
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Hire former HCs as "analyst" and "Grad Assts".
Legal
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Bumps into recruits during dead period.
Was legal, now not legal and he no longer does it
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He IS to be worshipped. Nobody does it better.
What does this even have to do with the above legal activities that Saban participates in to win football games?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:45 pm to bmy
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You guys watch too much TV. None of this would hold up in front of a judge
Yea - I'm pretty confident in my abilities to assess a bylaw or agreement structure and then assess whether it is being broken, kept or followed.
This rule is written in a way that there are almost no specific ways to break it without being a total moron. It would be incredibly easy to litigate your way out of 95% of any issues brought up because of this rule.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:46 pm to bmy
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Rules are pretty clear
Rules? Apparently Alabama didn't start following them until their head coach was buddies with the NCAA president
Nick Saban and Mark Emmert
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:46 pm to Triple Daves
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Not sure it's ever been punished because it's so small a thing, new a thing and something that could only be proven if a staff was insanely obtuse, blatant and left a blazing trail of evidence.
Or a disgruntled Joey Freshwater who now works for another school wants to chit chat with the NCAA and is willing to sign his name to it.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:47 pm to Triple Daves
Jeez, everybody needs to catch up. Bama doesn't cheat. They walk the line like an asian tightrope walker.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:47 pm to bmy
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What are the repercussions for a violation of that kind?
None. We're Bama.
You should know that by now.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:49 pm to bmy
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Or a disgruntled Joey Freshwater who now works for another school wants to chit chat with the NCAA and is willing to sign his name to it.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:50 pm to bmy
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I asked what repercussions exist IF the violation occurred.
I also already posted a part of the rule that would seem to suggest...
I'm sorry...I missed your post where you provided a link to any source specifying what the rule actually states.
Actually, I see a lot of people quoting what they think the rule says, but no one has provided a link to the actual rule.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:51 pm to bmy
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Or a disgruntled Joey Freshwater who now works for another school wants to chit chat with the NCAA and is willing to sign his name to it.
That's how you get blacklisted from coaching college football anywhere and a tag put over your name of "unhireable." That's the ultimate unspoken rule of college football.
And he would have to throw Sark under the bus to do that. Kind of a shitty thing to do to a good friend, Sark, and the only guy who was willing to give you another chance, Saban.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:52 pm to bmy
I would just like to point out my original post was directed more at the validity of said "insider", whom often enjoy adding unconfirmable "tidbits" to make their info look accurate.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:53 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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I would just like to point out my original post was directed more at the validity of said "insider", whom often enjoy adding unconfirmable "tidbits" to make their info look accurate.
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