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Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:40 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:40 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Really good college pitchers are almost always lower ceiling type guys
David Price, Jake Arrieta, Matt Harvey, Andrew Miller, Strasburg...I mean come on. Really good college pitchers go in the first round every year
Regardless. Baseball is a funny game. An average college team could beat a pro team. That's baseball
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 2:46 pm
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:44 pm to skrayper
It could easily happen in basketball if you had the right guy with a couple other good players.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:46 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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David Price, Jake Arrieta, Matt Harvey, Andrew Miller, Strasburg...I mean come on. Really good college pitchers go in the first round every year
You seem to be under the impression these guys were dominant aces from day one. That is not the case, at all.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:49 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Basketball.
In a series, no way. As bad as the Sixers and the Pelicans are, they would drum any college team there is.
eta: In fact each team is more or less anchored by the best player for Kentucky in their given year. And they are surrounded by much more capable players
Both those teams are bad NBA teams.
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:56 pm to skrayper
Only the old timers will remember this but back in the early 70's the Super Bowl Champion would play a team of college all stars. I don't remember who won those games but it would be fun to look that up.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:02 pm to RB10
Y'all seem to be under the impression that 102 mph is different depending on the jersey a guy is wearing.
I never even inferred that for the record, he stated that most good college pitchers are low ceiling guys. My counter argument was that some of the best pitchers in the majors went to college and were damn good in college.
I'm not saying Vanderbilt could compete in the NL central. Im saying it's retarded to think they couldn't conceivably beat an MLB team. Replace the cubs with LSU and LSU goes 0-162 next season. Is that what you're saying?
I never even inferred that for the record, he stated that most good college pitchers are low ceiling guys. My counter argument was that some of the best pitchers in the majors went to college and were damn good in college.
I'm not saying Vanderbilt could compete in the NL central. Im saying it's retarded to think they couldn't conceivably beat an MLB team. Replace the cubs with LSU and LSU goes 0-162 next season. Is that what you're saying?
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:03 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Y'all seem to be under the impression that 102 mph is different depending on the jersey a guy is wearing.
Start listing the guys in college that consistently throw 102. It shouldn't take you long.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:04 pm to skrayper
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we'll say a best of 5 series.
Alabama would lose all 5 games in 100 straight series.
The browns are bad because they are tanking. You don't lose some 5-6 games by <7 points in the NFL and get relegated to CFB
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:07 pm to RB10
That's not the point, it's only an example. If you believe a college team couldn't beat an MLB team then you just don't understand baseball. It's not like football where bama would go 0-16. Baseball is an entirely different game. It's a team sport dictated by a single man vs man competition. A good pitcher on his game is capable of shutting down any lineup. And yes, Strasburg was a college pitcher, so it's relevant to the argument and he was dominant from day one in the majors
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:10 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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That's not the point, it's only an example. If you believe a college team couldn't beat an MLB team then you just don't understand baseball.
In the OP it specifically states that it would be a series.
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For the sake of games like baseball, we'll say a best of 5 series.
There is not a single college baseball team that would even sniff a series win against MLB, AAA, AA or even A teams. No matter how many pitchers they have that throw 102 MPH.
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:12 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
You also have to look at the fact that the players at all positions were stars at a college level. The lineup batting against them likely all good college batters (or would be straight from hs). Its not like facing teams that have one or two good college players like college teams do.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:14 pm to RB10
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There is not a single college baseball team that would even sniff a series against MLB, AAA, AA or even A teams
Well this is retarded. There are kids in A ball that couldn't sniff a scholarship offer at collegiate baseball powers, I've played with them. If you believe the best college team in the country couldn't win a series in a season of A ball then I can't help you dude. There are kids pitching in A ball that were losing high school games the previous year
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:17 pm to Weagle25
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You wouldn't have the Cowboys Oline though which is really what makes that team tick.
Absolutely but you would have guys who are future All-Pros potentially. Taylor Decker was the LT at OSU, don't think he was even on the AA team first team and he is the starting LT for the Lions for example.
They won't be an all pro OL, but only the Cowboys have taht
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:18 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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There are kids pitching in A ball that were losing high school games the previous year
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:20 pm to skrayper
Certainly not one of the big 3 sports
I actually think football would be closest depending on the matchups. Baseball only if there was a pitcher on the college team that was a Strasburg type, but even then those guys don't generally pop up to the majors in 2 months and dominate.
I actually think football would be closest depending on the matchups. Baseball only if there was a pitcher on the college team that was a Strasburg type, but even then those guys don't generally pop up to the majors in 2 months and dominate.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:22 pm to RB10
Your response seems to indicate you believe that's inaccurate
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Here's a 2006 first round pick that was playing in high A less than a year after losing to us in high school and giving up 6 earned runs in the process. You truly do not understand what you're talking about
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Here's a 2006 first round pick that was playing in high A less than a year after losing to us in high school and giving up 6 earned runs in the process. You truly do not understand what you're talking about
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:22 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Have you ever played baseball numb nuts? An elite pitcher on his game can shut down anyone. It's not unheard for a college to scrimmage an MLB team and win. Toss Strasburg out on the bump throwing 102 in college facing a bunch of guys that have never seen him and he's going to make them look stupid. Baseball is indiscriminate. 100 mph is 100 mph and it's fricking hard to hit. Conversely, it takes a walk and a guy running into a fastball to put two runs on the board.
I played for 6 years in the Pirates farm system after college.
You keep throwing Strasburg out there but he wasn't the pitcher he is now when he was in college. That kid threw 102 but that was about it. It took him a few years still to get his command where it is today. The MLB line ups would see his 102 for an inning or two then he'd get rocked.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:22 pm to skrayper
I'd prefer to see the Browns' injury report before responding
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:22 pm to Xignals
I think they stopped in the 60s.
Google Ron Vander Kellen
Google Ron Vander Kellen
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:22 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Your response seems to indicate you believe that's inaccurate
My response should seem to indicate that I think you're full of shite.
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