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re: SI article on running backs.....

Posted on 1/31/13 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/31/13 at 6:13 pm to
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God, we Aggies are a shitty bunch...

Finally something we can all agree on.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 6:34 pm to
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KaiserSoze99 Posted:

Bama does it right. So does Georgia and LSU.

We had 5-star Christine Michael and 4-star Ben Melina sharing time with 5-star Trey Williams.

This next year, we have 4-star Ben "Tre" Melina sharing time with 5-star Trey Williams, 5-star Tra Carson, and 5-star Brandon Williams the III.



Fixed.....
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14511 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 6:37 pm to
Well, yes. It's not technically the same, but it's commonly used as a synonym for number of times a page is viewed.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 6:48 pm to
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oauron Posted:

Well, yes. It's not technically the same, but it's commonly used as a synonym for number of times a page is viewed.



It's also commonly used to describe the overwhelming multitude of results by Gamecock batters versus Arkansas pitchers that's sure to happen this spring, but this may not exactly be on topic with this thread....

Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/31/13 at 6:49 pm to

I like that williams kid. I think he'll do well.
This post was edited on 1/31/13 at 6:52 pm
Posted by deaux68
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Member since Dec 2007
5283 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 6:52 pm to
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Auburn's 2004 offense says hello.


Yes, two rbs were never used on the same team before 2004. Hell Auburn had three NFL runningbacks splitting carries in the early 80s.

I think the gist of the article is that Saban is telling the guys up front and using it as a recruiting pitch.

I highly doubt Tommy Tuberville did the same. Especially, considering the ducks were probably flying.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37247 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 7:23 pm to
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everyone has been doing this for a while now, not sure why they made it seem like Saban is the inventor. oh well, its the truth.


Probably something to do with him producing three first round backs in three consecutive years.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:06 pm to
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Probably something to do with him producing three first round backs in three consecutive years.


And so far one (MI) might be the biggest 1st round bust in the last ten years and the other averaged a little over 3 yards per carry. They are prime reasons you wait until the late second or third to pick a RB.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63929 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:42 pm to
I can't believe the article didn't mention, and no one here in 3 pages has mentioned...


Lattimore.




Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 8:43 pm to
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Stars dont equal rings.....Dominating your oponent does....you count your stars we will count our crystal


Quite obvious you did not count grammar and spelling class, right Hoss?
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 9:51 pm to
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Auburn's 2004 offense says hello.

It had been done before, but that really showcased how two top notch RB's can be effectively used in the same offense.


If I remember correctly, the only reason Ronnie got much playing time was because Cadillac went down. Before that Tubbs was happy to run Caddy into the ground, which is probably why he broke down so early in his pro career.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 11:42 pm to
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GalvoAg
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SI article on running backs.....
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That's a coonass for ya.


Die In A Treehouse (DIAT).
This post was edited on 1/31/13 at 11:43 pm
Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 2/1/13 at 1:30 am to
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Probably so. The upside to all this is we may see better all around backs. One's who can pass block, pick up the blitz, run a route other than to the flat, and catch the ball.


I think the opposite might actually be the case. We'll see more specialized backs being rotated into the game for whatever the situation is at the time. Passing down? Put in the blocking/pass catching guy. Short Yardage? Put in the bulldozer. Clock eating multiple carry guys. Speed, high YPC guys.

If it were true that these types of scenarios produced guys who could do every job then what would be the point of taking them out at all, unless it was for a breather. Why does the argument that "if you have two starting quarterbacks you don't have any starting quarterbacks" not translate into "if you have multiple feature running backs you don't have any feature running backs"?
Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 2/1/13 at 1:39 am to
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Yes. It's a good example of the college game mimicking the pros. Gone are the days of one back getting 30 carries.


One of the current MVP favorites is Adrian Peterson. Peterson had 348 carries during the regular season. The next most rushes was by QB Ponder with 60.

In fact four of the top five backs this season (AP, Morris, Lynch and Martin) had more than 300 carries (Charles had 285, so he was right there as well) while dominating the carries for their respective teams.

Even the two SB teams have backs who carry the workload without platooning. So, no, I don't think it's the future in the pros or college. If you have that back that is capable of carrying the workload, then you don't need two other guys to prop them up...
Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 2/1/13 at 1:44 am to
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I can't believe the article didn't mention, and no one here in 3 pages has mentioned...


Lattimore.


If you mean that if you have a back capable of doing everything required then you don't need to have a cadre of people to carry the ball, then I agree...

If that was in the context that platooning would prevent his injuries... then that's just silly.

Both his injuries would have happened to whoever was running the ball... How would having Mike Davis or Kenny Miles patrolling the sideline on crutches, instead of Lattimore, been in anyway better? If Gurley or Marshall gets their knee caught wrong during a play it will still sideline them the same as it did Marcus.
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17937 posts
Posted on 2/1/13 at 4:31 am to
I just hope we don't become like LSU as far as how we use our rbs.

Cycling 4 or 5 rbs into the game doesn't work, they can't stay in rhythm.

I have faith that NS is smarter than to do that.


Let all the rbs battle it out then play the top two, let the third best one come in during garbage time, process the rest of them.That's the Alabama way.

This post was edited on 2/1/13 at 4:40 am
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33937 posts
Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:14 am to
I'll be surprised if Yeldon doesn't carry most of the load next year. I just don't see the #2 RB getting 100+ carries like in years past. If you look at all the times we've had two running backs share the load, the two RBs were always pretty equal in terms of ability if not better. There wasn't much of a gap between Coffee and Ingram, Ingram and Richardson, and Lacy and Yeldon when they shared the load. That won't be the case next year. There really isn't any backup RB that is projected to stand out and Yeldon will almost certainly be significantly better than whoever the #2 RB will be. I see there being a rotation of backups to Yeldon. In a big game like Texas A&M or LSU, I bet Yeldon will get over 20+ carries and no backup RB will get more than five carries. This is just my feeling based on the recruiting that is going on. It's one thing to recruit two or three RBs. It's another thing to try to land five or six running backs in the same class. Saban isn't as confident about any of these freshman running backs being ready to be key contributors from day one like he was about Richardson and Yeldon. This is just my opinion.
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17937 posts
Posted on 2/1/13 at 5:54 am to
I disagree.We have a couple of rbs coming in that are rated higher coming out of HS than Yeldon was.This of course doesn't mean they'll be better than he is/was but there's no reason to think that one won't be good enough to be a more than solid number two back as a true freshman.

Also Kenyan Drake is a beast.
This post was edited on 2/1/13 at 6:00 am
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33937 posts
Posted on 2/1/13 at 6:05 am to
Yeldon was vastly underrated coming out of high school. None of the new guys coming in are on the levels of Yeldon or Richardson.
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17937 posts
Posted on 2/1/13 at 6:18 am to
I agree that he was underrated but we have 4 rbs coming in that are in the top 100 players in the nation on 247, I'm sure we'll be fine lol.

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None of the new guys coming in are on the levels of Yeldon or Richardson.


There's no way to know that right now.Heard people say the same about Yeldon before last season started.
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