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re: Show us your marching band halls!

Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:23 pm to
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Only problem I can see is the underground river. You can hear it in some places inside moody, and Butler floods CONSTANTLY. Even days after a rain storm. I'm not an architect, but I can see how that would be a problem.


Yeah that could be a problem. Perhaps a complete relocation to a drier area of the campus? This issue could very well be why UA hasn't built a band hall.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:45 pm to
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Looks like some of you are posting pictures of the actual Schools of Music at your universities as opposed to band halls.

In that case...



For Tennessee the band operates out of the 4-level 123,000 sq ft Haslam Music Center but I'm all for more pics whether it's a combined center like ours, school of music, or the band hall. Love seeing the pics.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:54 pm to
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Love seeing the pics.


Agreed. Was one of my favorite threads ever...

Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:57 pm to
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Looks like some of you are posting pictures of the actual Schools of Music at your universities as opposed to band halls. In that case...


UT uses the same building for both.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:02 pm to
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Only problem I can see is the underground river. You can hear it in some places inside moody, and Butler floods CONSTANTLY. Even days after a rain storm. I'm not an architect, but I can see how that would be a problem.
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Yeah that could be a problem. Perhaps a complete relocation to a drier area of the campus? This issue could very well be why UA hasn't built a band hall.
It's freakin 2014 - if the BOT wanted to appropriate funds for a band hall those bastards would have done it by now.

There have literally been hundreds of millions spent on campus construction in the past 10 yrs - the money is there I promise. It ain't at the top of their agenda.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:05 pm to
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There have literally been hundreds of millions spent on campus construction in the past 10 yrs - the money is there I promise


Nobody thinks you couldn't build one if you wanted to. I was just suggesting that there may be issues with where to locate it.

I had never heard before that Butler Field regularly floods, but if I was the AD at Alabama, that would give me pause in deciding to build a band hall there.

Posted by Carolina Tide
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:53 pm to
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It's freakin 2014 - if the BOT wanted to appropriate funds for a band hall those bastards would have done it by now.

There have literally been hundreds of millions spent on campus construction in the past 10 yrs - the money is there I promise. It ain't at the top of their agenda.



Sadly that's true.
Posted by Carolina Tide
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:43 pm to
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Yeah that could be a problem. Perhaps a complete relocation to a drier area of the campus? This issue could very well be why UA hasn't built a band hall.


At this point, IDK where it is, as long as we get one, and preferably a nice one.
Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:38 pm to
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It looks like the web have been scraped of all evidence.


Oh I have pictures of the garage, the "temporary" home of the band for 50+ years. I helped clean it out on my birthday in 2007 and move everything to the new building. I couldn't believe how much stuff was crammed into that place.

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Only problem I can see is the underground river. You can hear it in some places inside moody, and Butler floods CONSTANTLY. Even days after a rain storm. I'm not an architect, but I can see how that would be a problem.


That's why I don't care for Ole Miss' band practice field. It's down a hill from the band hall and seems to be perpetually soggy.
Posted by CockRocket
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:55 pm to
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but with a new director (who I think is an LSU grad) has really turned it around. Now we're starting to have an SEC worthy band.
Dr. Phillip's is her name but she just left for a promotion at Colorado State.
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I actually had no idea we had a specific band hall.
It's on Sumter street behind Blatt next to Bates.
Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
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Posted on 4/15/14 at 11:58 pm to
Also JSU played us once or twice while I was there. Of course they had an awesome show, even at the very beginning of the season. I loved the fact that they brought the full band to perform--most SEC schools won't/can't due to the lack of hotel rooms.

Some historical pictures of note:

MSU's old band truck. Thankfully some band alumni stepped up and bought us a bigger truck because this one wasn't ever going off campus (January 2004).


Grilling outside the old band hall (October 2004).


Brothers and sisters from Florida's KKPsi and TBS chapters. They were pretty happy that Zook got Croomed at the game and they were getting a new coach (October 2004).


The new band/choral hall in 2007 (yes, that parking lot is now paved--MSU probably still has some on-campus gravel lots, though).


The office.


The tower. Frankly I am astounded to see other universities with covered towers. There would've been rioting during band camp if the directors had had shade and the band didn't. This one is made by the same company that made Auburn's. And it is disgustingly brown instead of maroon because it was built while Dr. Fogelsong was president of the university and he apparently loved brown.

Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:08 am to
Great pics! Thanks so much for sharing those. I'll make a point to go by that way next time LSU is in town.

Posted by GeorgeReymond
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:10 am to
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Dr. Phillip's is her name but she just left for a promotion at Colorado State.


In our weekly LSU email, it said the new dean for the College of Music & Dramatic Arts is from Colorado State. I bet she's taking his position
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 12:15 am
Posted by I Ham That I Ham
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:16 am to
that truck

The razorback band marches in a sectioned off part of a big parking lot on campus. It is good in that it doesn't get muddy like a field would but it's pretty hot during Early week in the summer and thru Sept. Our directors just use a scissor lift to see the formations.

Here's a pic of the old ROTC band from the early 1900's i believe:


Our band dates back to 1876 and is the oldest student organization

Here is a slightly lower key version of our fight song melody:
Posted by BamaDude06
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:11 am to
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You can hear it in some places inside moody, and Butler floods CONSTANTLY


The Arby's swamp was TERRIBLE. A small sprinkle floods it. If we get a solid rain...forget it. That corner is a mud pit for days. Luckily outside of the pregame block I rarely had to march there in my time in the MDB.

And yeah the actual band hall has been discussed for years. Dr. O talked about it to us several times about it, yet it still hasn't happened. It's a damn shame the band has to use Arby's restrooms during their rehearsals. The band administration always talked about how great the support from the Athletic Department is, but I just don't see it outside of travel, as it seems the MDB takes more full band trips than most SEC bands.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:31 am to
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It's freakin 2014 - if the BOT wanted to appropriate funds for a band hall those bastards would have done it by now.

There have literally been hundreds of millions spent on campus construction in the past 10 yrs - the money is there I promise. It ain't at the top of their agenda.


tl;dr summary: Use TSiO and our rivalry to goad your fans into demanding support by BOT/Admin.

Longer story....

Well if Bama fans were informed of this oversight it might force a change. Y'all have a lot of pride in your band and I really do think that if the average fan were informed that UT just spent 40 million on a Music Center that houses the Pride while the Million Dollar Band calls a glorified poverty stricken 1950s-era High School Field House home it would really burn them up - at least enough to make noise to get a decent building that's better than what you have. And before you write it off as crazy... according to some myths we became know as the "Pride of the Southland Marching Band" in the 1940s and that the decision was made just moments before the TSiO when Pride was introduced at Legion Field when we were introduced for the first time under that name and Director Walter Ryba was introduced as Maj. Walter Ryba because Bama had always been quick to address their director by military rank instead of as a director. Another story goes that a national sports writer christened us the Pride of the Southland Marching Band because he thought we were an excellent marching band and was tired of hearing how great the Million Dollar Band (he felt their name gave them too much credit and UT's lack of a formal name too little).

Given that Ryba was top talent who'd even played in John Phillip Sousa's Band, which was world famous, and that he modeled the Pride after his mentor Sousa it was a sin the Pride was being overlooked because we didn't yet have a name that was PR-ready. Sousa had been director of the US Marine Band before he founded the John Phillip Sousa Band which was known for combining the best of military bands with the best of orchestral bands. Sousa himself was known for his marches, his bands, a little thing called the Sousaphone, and was the composer for a little song/march you mighta heard once or twice "The Stars and Stripes Forever" to hit just the highlights. It's fitting that years later Dr. Julian would be known for his marches and steps, which were far more difficult/complex than most college bands and for inventing as well as popularizing the Circle Drill which many CFB Marching Bands now use.

UT is a place where football fans, casual fans, and even students with no interest in foosball know the name of current band directors and many of our past ones. Dr. Julian, who I mentioned earlier, was a campus rockstar! A band director as famous as the coaches!

I lay all that out because it's fodder for any Bama fan who loves the MBD and wants to see it supported. Long before Dr. Gary Sousa (not related to John P Sousa) got into trouble with AD and got fired from leading POTS for stirring up a media storm, UT fans were upset with him and talking about how to get POTS back to where it was with Dr. Julian. Bama can AND should be as restless about the MBD being perfect as many of us are about the Pride. I believe with right challenge to Bama's pride fans can/will pressure BOT into spending coin.

Bands are one of the things that make SEC football great, distinguishes from the NFL as well as colleges with no great band tradition, and should be a source of competition and pride. They're a part of who we are, a part of gameday events as much as live games, and they deserve our support even if we have to poke at the pride of our BOTs and Admins to shell out the coin.

What they bring to the game and overall gameday experience is more than worth it. So Bammers please consider doing this - let's make it a part of our rivalry again as it was in the past. It will benefit everyone.

If anyone is interested in John Phillip Sousa: LINK
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 1:37 am
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