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re: Should the SEC trade Missouri for Georgia Tech?

Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:40 am to
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:40 am to
U obviously don't understand what conference expansion objective truly is.
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
2082 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:42 am to
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Go to GT and face calculus, physics and professors who dont give a shite about football or athletics, or go to Clem/Bama/FSU etc and take sports science and breeze through the academic side so you can focus on football.
I understand your point, but schools with high academic standards are and have been successful in modern college football. Simply because it hasn't happened at GT lately doesn't mean it's not possible or even likely given the right situation and the right people in place.

You saying those are empty expectations sounds like an excuse for complacency within your athletic department. Hypothetically speaking, if GT really wanted to prioritize a successful football program, which they probably would if they were to join the SEC, wouldn't it be possible to make adjustments to current academic standards for athletes? I doubt it would be necessary anyway, but I don't know the specifics on how feasible that is.
Posted by JoJoDolphinus
South Florida
Member since Dec 2015
356 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 12:43 pm to
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When it comes to recruiting GT absolutely cannot comptete with all of the FSU, CLEM, UGA, Bama, TN, etc. for the right pieces. You can with the right coach. You're in the state of fricking Georgia dude.


This is SO hypocritical coming from an Auburn fan, a fan of a school who literally hired a highschool coach with a unique offensive system so you could compete with LSU, Bama, UG etc
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 12:46 pm to
I actually know from a very reliable source that Georgia Tech was in the running for the last spot in the league up until the very last minute. In the end, Slive chose to push Missouri as the 14th member instead since it made more financial sense. But Georgia Tech was VERY, VERY close to being the SEC's choice to complement A&M joining the league.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25194 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 12:56 pm to
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I actually know from a very reliable source that Georgia Tech was in the running for the last spot in the league up until the very last minute. In the end, Slive chose to push Missouri as the 14th member instead since it made more financial sense. But Georgia Tech was VERY, VERY close to being the SEC's choice to complement A&M joining the league.




What in the hell for? Missouri adds a ton of TV sets and is the SEC's key to the Midwest market. We've already got all the TV sets in Georgia we would need. No insult intended to the Yellowjackets, a team with a fine football history, but they would be a very poor second choice.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25663 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:08 pm to
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won the ACC


Just to set the record straight...

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Georgia Tech was stripped of its 2009 Atlantic Coast Conference football championship -- its first outright in 19 years -- after the NCAA erased the Yellow Jackets' title game win vs. Clemson and hit the Yellow Jackets on Thursday with other sanctions including a $100,000 fine...
The penalties were amplified by what the NCAA said was Tech's failure to fully cooperate in the investigation of a players acceptance of gifts from someone with ties to an agent


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The association said staff members at Georgia Tech disregarded NCAA instructions in tipping off an unidentified football player to the nature of an upcoming interview by investigators.

"They were asked not to discuss what would be discussed," infractions committee chairman Denis Thomas said. That "impeded the investigation and hindered efforts to get to the truth in the case," the NCAA said.


They would fit right in IMO...

Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:31 pm to
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What in the hell for? Missouri adds a ton of TV sets and is the SEC's key to the Midwest market. We've already got all the TV sets in Georgia we would need. No insult intended to the Yellowjackets, a team with a fine football history, but they would be a very poor second choice.


From what I was told, the fact that Georgia Tech would have been entering along side Texas A&M, the increase in TV sets that were going to be gained from the state of Texas would more than offset the fact that Georgia was already in the footprint. In other words, adding A&M & GT would still be better than no expansion at all.

The SEC was apparently afraid that Mizzou was too big of a stretch from a geographical/cultural standpoint. The thought was that Georgia Tech was a perfect fit (including historical value since they were a former member), but in the end, the SEC went with the option that would mean more $$$ instead of going with the option that would still be more $ (just not as much), but would be a better overall fit from a culture standpoint.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:15 pm to
You're pissed. And yes, like a rock. This is the SEC not the SWC.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:20 pm to
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I understand your point, but schools with high academic standards are and have been successful in modern college football. Simply because it hasn't happened at GT lately doesn't mean it's not possible or even likely given the right situation and the right people in place.

You saying those are empty expectations sounds like an excuse for complacency within your athletic department. Hypothetically speaking, if GT really wanted to prioritize a successful football program, which they probably would if they were to join the SEC, wouldn't it be possible to make adjustments to current academic standards for athletes? I doubt it would be necessary anyway, but I don't know the specifics on how feasible that is.

Things are different at GT though. Everyone is required to take calculus and they don't have the typical jock majors to hide players in that even places like Northwestern and Stanford offer.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:36 pm to
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These rednecks are dumb as frick. Just enjoy the entertainment.


Makes you sound smart.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:07 pm to
cause like pretty much errbody involved is gone
Posted by dlc83
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
1829 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:29 pm to
It's not just that GT is a high academic school. The problem is that it is the only P5 school with a total emphasis on STEM majors and BS degrees;hence Institute of Technology. Not much subjectivity when grading calculus or advanced engineering tests.

You can go to Duke and Stanford and major in easy liberal arts. There's grade inflation in the top, Ivy League type schools. Very hard to get in. But once you're in, it's all A's and B's.

Bottom line; The above presents unique problems for the GT student athlete.
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
2082 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:45 pm to
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This is SO hypocritical coming from an Auburn fan, a fan of a school who literally hired a highschool coach with a unique offensive system so you could compete with LSU, Bama, UG etc


I didn't intend any disrespect. And we hired Gus because he was responsible for building the offense that won us a national championship...?
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