re: SEC might have a little competion

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I blame that loss on the fact that nobody blocked for Troy Smith.

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You can't block what you can't catch.

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I'm thinking in the next few years you guys will be seeing a little bit of Ohio State

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I certainly hope so. Can you say 0 for 10?

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That is what they get for voting before the bowl games.

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FWIW, the problem if you vote after the bowl game is it's more likely to become an "MVP of the bowls" award. With the reg season being done a month and a half a go, the bowls are what's fresh in people's minds.

And TS had no chance in that game. Can't really do much when you have .323 seconds on avg to get rid of the ball.

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Especially when you're a fatass(or at least 15pds closer to it)

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Obviously, that's not good, but no QB would have had a chance that night.

We shouldn't have abandoned the run so early. Our only TD drive was the result of a few good runs. Pittman ran 10 for 62, Beanie ran 2 for 9. Our line couldn't pass block, but they were doing an OK job of getting a push on the run. I understand we were losing, but we panicked a little early, and didn't need to try to pass as much, IMO.

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It also didn't help that Texas; who was #2 when they played and was considered Ohio State's biggest win of the season until they beat Michigan decided to drop it's last two Big 12 games dropping them to #18.

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McCoy was injured in one and recovering from that injury in the other. (Not that his backup at the time, Jevan Snead, is a joke, or anything) Texas did beat Oklahoma by 18 that year (the same OU that lost to BSU in the Fiesta Bowl, leading many to complain about the Broncos not getting a shot. And I know you can't do transitive property in football, but just to give an idea, that's people talking about a team that's virtually equal with OU, who lost to Texas by 18 at a neutral site, who lost to OSU by 17 at HOME, who got destroyed by the NC on a neutral site).

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That is definitely the kind of reasoning that people use to support the idea that Ohio State was not as good as they were generally believed to be before the title game. But I think it is because of the lopsided result of that title game that people have revised their perception of that team and its competition so that it is probably significantly more negative than the reality.

I say that because if you actually do compare who beat whom, there is little reason to believe that Ohio State was anywhere near as bad, relative to Florida, as they were in the title game.

Michigan lost to USC by 14, but that was the same USC team that beat the SEC runner-up on the road by a much wider margin than Florida did. Michigan also beat Vanderbilt by a much wider margin than Florida did and beat Notre Dame, at Notre Dame, by roughly the same margin that LSU did in the Sugar Bowl. Penn State beat Tennessee by a wider margin than Florida did.

I am not saying Ohio State was the best that year or that comparing common opponents is always an accurate measure of relative strength, just that the disparity between Florida and Ohio State was probably not nearly as great as the result of 1 game played 1-2 months after the regular season might lead someone to believe.

i had no problem with OSU in 06, they deserved to be there. they were undefeated. florida was just better that year. also i dont get why the big 10 ends the season so early, didnt OSU have like a 51 day layoff, thats insane.

in 07 they didnt belong thou, that didnt help the schools perception losing back to back title games.

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didnt OSU have like a 51 day layoff, thats insane.

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Yeah, they've pushed the season back a bit this year though. Ohio State students were kinda pissed though, as this could potentially screw up our Mirror Lake tradition.

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My biggest complaint was that those two years McFadden got beat out of the Heisman by two qb's that really shouldn't have won it. Troy Smith was overrated, but DMAC was a sophmore so I can give him a break on that one. The next year DMAC got beat out by Tebow and Tebow was only a Sophmore himself so I don't think he should have gotten it.

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You do understand that there is noway the QB of the undefeated national championship team is not winning the Heisman when he also became the first QB to pass and run for over 20 TD each right? You also understand that having a 3 game losing streak directly before the voting did not enhance DMac's chances right? Tebow deserved the trophy. In 2005 Arkansas' piss poor record precluded Dmac from winning. Conclusion? Dmac should kick HDN's arse for costing him 2 Heismans.