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re: SEC Leads Nation in FBS Attendance (See UAB numbers)
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:04 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:04 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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I graduated from UA
Well, I graduated from UAB, let me make my own calls when it comes to MY university.
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:05 pm to higgs_boson
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the approach should have been, unless x amount is generated x will have to be cancelled
I would argue that this was the exact approach utilized; substitute "football fan attendance figures" for the first variable and you have your formula.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:06 pm to higgs_boson
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You have a point. But the process with which this decision was made was flawed. Again, I do not argue the outcome would have definitely been different, but the approach should have been, unless x amount is generated x will have to be cancelled.
I linked the earlier articles to emphasize the theme that the donors felt they were kept out of the loop. That becomes a trust issue. Will their donations decrease? I cannot say for certain but usually boosters voice their displeasure via their checkbook. I think the soccer improvements are great, but that was in the works before any of these developments came to light
People have known that UAB football was on its death bed for a while. Sure, some supporters and some boosters are unhappy. And maybe they should have just come out and said, unless we get x dollars, then the program ends. But these supporters...who are they, and how important are they in UAB's eyes? One day I read that Iron City cancels a $45,000 sponsorship, then the next day I read that BBVA Compass cuts them a $1.5M check. Even if the deal was in the works, did BBVA Compass back out? No. And even though football's financial woes have been widely known for some time, BBVA wanted their large donation to go to something else.
Donors often have pet projects they want to donate to. They may have unlimited cash and may be happy to give you their money...but if they want it to go to soccer and not football, those are just the constraints you have to live with.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:07 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Has there been history of UAB football game attendees getting robbed or beat up?
I honestly think this is more a matter of perception. I noticed earlier you stated you have lived in Birmingham for over a year? Birmingham gets a really negative rap. Just wait till all the Birmingham is a cesspool comments.
Again and probably for the last time (LOL have to get some work done)
The issue at UAB is about more than the football.
The reason the faculty are voting on a no confidence measure is because of the issue of shared governance at UAB (an open partnership between university leadership and faculty in the decision-making process).
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:07 pm to cas4t
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no it's not
they've bitched about this for years
So they've bitched. AA&M and ASU students and fans still show up. They can too. Or did you not grasp that point?
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:11 pm to BamaGradinTn
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People have known that UAB football was on its death bed for a while.
Because they were doing better than a lot of other programs of similar size?
Again, if UAB football was struggling, THE ONLY REASON IS BECAUSE THE UAT BOT WORKED AGAINST THEM TO MAKE IT SO.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:12 pm to cas4t
I wasn't thrilled about going to the "big" Bama home games at Legion Field when I attended UA, but I still made that 55 mile trip from Tuscaloosa for every home game played there while I was a student. And, I never had one problem - although that was the mid-80's 
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:12 pm to higgs_boson
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Has there been history of UAB football game attendees getting robbed or beat up?
I honestly think this is more a matter of perception. I noticed earlier you stated you have lived in Birmingham for over a year? Birmingham gets a really negative rap
If, instead of playing Samford, Auburn had agreed to a home and home with UAB, every Auburn fan in this thread would have shown up at Legion Field for the game. Even the dumbass in Miami would have gone into "goddamn ghetto demilitarized zone"
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:13 pm to AlaTiger
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That is my recommendation to those telling me to shut up about UAB.
This is a new article that compares UAB with the rest of the nation. While FBS overall declined 14%, UAB INCREASES 107% and is better than 1/4 of all FBS schools overall, so ...
KILL IT!!!!!
Pretty sure you're not going to find a single person on this message board that had anything to do with that decision.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:13 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Tiger n Miami AU83
You lost me at "goddamn ghetto demilitarized zone".
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:15 pm to BamaGradinTn
Sorry, I'm getting pissed.
I think it is time out time for TiM.
I think it is time out time for TiM.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:16 pm to BamaGradinTn
Comparing SEC fans to any conference is just silly.
It is rare to find teams outside of the SEC who travel anywhere near as well as SEC fans will.
I mean, do yall really not see how students who can now live on campus would show up to a game that was on campus?
A on campus stadium that is within walking distance will get on campus students just because of the fact of boredom if nothing else.
It is rare to find teams outside of the SEC who travel anywhere near as well as SEC fans will.
I mean, do yall really not see how students who can now live on campus would show up to a game that was on campus?
A on campus stadium that is within walking distance will get on campus students just because of the fact of boredom if nothing else.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:18 pm to BamaGradinTn
I grasped it. I'm pretty smart. It still doesn't change the fact that people don't like going to football games in the hood. One instance where people show up doesn't change that. Or even 2 instances.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:20 pm to Funky Tide 8
I've never been robbed in the hood. But I still know I could get robbed there.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:21 pm to Indfanfromcol
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I mean, do yall really not see how students who can now live on campus would show up to a game that was on campus?
I went to a small undergrad college that played it's games at a local high school that was about 30 minutes away. I think my freshman year, the football team lost every game. It eventually built its own stadium on campus, and there did seem to be an improvement, but it's not like it's magically packed out now.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:22 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Yeah. I am getting pissed too - but from the opposite side.
One of the reasons I stopped, until today for some reason, talking and writing about this.
It is not worth bursting a blood vessel.
One of the reasons I stopped, until today for some reason, talking and writing about this.
It is not worth bursting a blood vessel.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:22 pm to BamaGradinTn
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If, instead of playing Samford, Auburn had agreed to a home and home with UAB, every Auburn fan in this thread would have shown up at Legion Field for the game.
I think you would agree though, that Birmingham has a negative connotation associated with it.
I think that image is slowly changing (avondale, crestwood and downtown are examples) but it takes years for people's perception to change.
And as far as Auburn or any SEC school playing home and home with programs like UAB, well that is pretty rare.
I do think UAB games at AU or UA would have been sold out instead as opposed to bringing in teams like New Mexico State or Western Kentucky. That would have generated more for the state as a whole.
Again, all hypothetical at this point. The question really is what is the future for UAB? I have no clue how it will all turn out.
This has been a good discussion for the most part, but I am out until I finish reviewing some paperwork.
I hope all have a good and safe day.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:23 pm to bobsacamano
So in other words, yes you do see how more student would show up if it were on campus.
I studied at a CUSA school and can guarantee you few would show up to games that weren't on campus.
I studied at a CUSA school and can guarantee you few would show up to games that weren't on campus.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:23 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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THE ONLY REASON IS BECAUSE THE UAT BOT WORKED AGAINST THEM TO MAKE IT SO.
OH MY GOD, THEN WHY DID THEY START IT?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:26 pm to Bham4Tide
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It is not worth bursting a blood vessel.
Agreed. Esp when you're flat out wrong and extremely biased.
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