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re: SEC East: The 2nd Best Division in College Football?
Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:18 pm to RiverDawg
Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:18 pm to RiverDawg
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Which ACC Division is better than the East?
Atlantic or Coastal?
well 2 years ago they fielded the NC, but I get your point, without their teams near the SEC they are nothing but bassetball.
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 2:04 pm to Jagd Tiger
I realize since the SEC east won their bowl games, they are excited. UGA and Mizzou are good teams not great and the other five have a ways to go. Maybe they begin to turn it around this year. SC, UT, and UF maybe better. UK and VU have a ways to go.
At this point to say, they are the second best division in CFB is asinine. One could make a cogent argument that the SEC east is 5th, 6th, or 7th out of 8. Win more than 4 against the SEC west out of 14 and take care of your ACC rivals and people will take note.
At this point to say, they are the second best division in CFB is asinine. One could make a cogent argument that the SEC east is 5th, 6th, or 7th out of 8. Win more than 4 against the SEC west out of 14 and take care of your ACC rivals and people will take note.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 2:09 pm to WG_Dawg
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waht about them? All you've done is pick and choose teams that lost to (in some cases) clearly better teams. Teams from 3 different conferences at that
The SEC East lost enough games last year that they were clearly not the 2nd best division. Of course, it seems we are on the same page.
As far as this upcoming year, the south is a more complete division. Most of the teams will actually be improved. The SEC east has far more questions to answer.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 2:25 pm to WG_Dawg
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UGA vs Clemson/GA Tech
UGA went 1-1 agianst those teams last year, and has combined to go 106-58 against them all time. UGA absolutely owns both teams.
Georiga has gone 13-8-1 against Clemson since 1974. Not really owning Clemson. Four of UGA's 13 wins were by 4 or less points. Not really owning Clemson.
4-5 of those UGA wins came in early 90's when Clemson wasn't doing good against anybody.
Clemson was only team to beat UGA in 3 years when they beat UGA in 81, and kept UGA from winning the title that year and Clemson won it instead.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 3:12 pm to Jamie Lannister
Why 1974?
Posted on 7/24/15 at 3:15 pm to RiverDawg
I bet they have the second highest average star rating on their roster. I think that's indicative of something.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 3:16 pm to RiverDawg
Bottom half of the SEC West is the only correct answer.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 5:09 pm to Korin
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by Korin
Why 1974?
Because lannister knows Uga won 8 in a row right before that and owns the overall series and owns the recent series.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:15 am to djsdawg
yes I am aware of that but Clemson only became a university in 1965. so I gave clem 10 years to get the program up and running and looked at record since then.
regardless, for past 41 years, Clemson and uga only played 22 times and UGA is up 13-8-1, and the teams split in the 80's, Clemson's best decade prior to this one. UGA probably will be always slightly better than Clemson because they don't have much competition for in state recruits from another in state program, like Clemson does.
regardless, for past 41 years, Clemson and uga only played 22 times and UGA is up 13-8-1, and the teams split in the 80's, Clemson's best decade prior to this one. UGA probably will be always slightly better than Clemson because they don't have much competition for in state recruits from another in state program, like Clemson does.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 12:37 pm to Jamie Lannister
Yeah, because nobody else recruits in Georgia except for us and Yech.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 12:39 pm to YHCDawg
nah but it helps you don't have to beat out your in state rival for the best recruits. clemson has to beat out SC and other schools to get the best in state talent.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 1:27 pm to Jamie Lannister
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yes I am aware of that but Clemson only became a university in 1965. so I gave clem 10 years to get the program up and running and looked at record since then.
regardless, for past 41 years, Clemson and uga only played 22 times and UGA is up 13-8-1, and the teams split in the 80's, Clemson's best decade prior to this one. UGA probably will be always slightly better than Clemson because they don't have much competition for in state recruits from another in state program, like Clemson does.
Bs excuse. Clemson was a fully capable football program long before 1955, when clemson started admitting women, and 1964, when clemson changed their name. The early 1900's and the late 70's/80's are the only periods of time clemson faired well against Uga. Uga has won 6 of the past 7.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 1:34 pm to Jamie Lannister
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regardless, for past 41 years, Clemson and uga only played 22 times and UGA is up 13-8-1, and the teams split in the 80's, Clemson's best decade prior to this one. UGA probably will be always slightly better than Clemson because they don't have much competition for in state recruits from another in state program, like Clemson does.
Keep sugar coating that turd if it taste better to you....
I don't post much, but I'd like to tell you how poorly this post was thought out....Regardless of how you perceive your in state competition with South Carolina...... Georgia is a national hotbed for recruiting high school talent...The Univ Of Georgia's competition for home grown recruits extend far beyond the state borders.
You did get one thing right however
quote:...in every imaginable way..
UGA will be always better than Clemson
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 7/25/15 at 1:47 pm to redandblackattack
uga and Clemson tied in us news rankings. lol Clemson has much better engineering and architecture program and reputation. UGA just started engineering program.
4 of those 6 wins you cited were decided by 4 or less points. One of them, the starting qb had to be benched and the backup played out of his mind to pull off a 3 point victory.
Clemson has one 1 of last two with UGA and i believe would have been favored to win Boyd's first two years as well, given UGA's issues on defense.
Clemson has more of a family feel b/c it is half the students of UGA, 35,000 students is way too big in my view. and a much better location in my view nestled on a lake in the foothills of the mountains near America's best downtown Greenville SC
4 of those 6 wins you cited were decided by 4 or less points. One of them, the starting qb had to be benched and the backup played out of his mind to pull off a 3 point victory.
Clemson has one 1 of last two with UGA and i believe would have been favored to win Boyd's first two years as well, given UGA's issues on defense.
Clemson has more of a family feel b/c it is half the students of UGA, 35,000 students is way too big in my view. and a much better location in my view nestled on a lake in the foothills of the mountains near America's best downtown Greenville SC
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 7/25/15 at 1:51 pm to Jamie Lannister
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Clemson has one 1 of last two with UGA and i believe would have been favored to win Boyd's first two years as well, given UGA's issues on defense.
Clemson won in 1990 and 2013.
Uga won in 1991, 1994, 1995, 2002, 2003, and 2014.
That's 6-2 over the past 25 years.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 1:57 pm to djsdawg
it is misleading to talk about 25 years, if they only played 8 years of the 25. uga got lucky and played Clemson in many of their bad seasons especially early 90s.
2002 we had issues too, and uga was real good that year, i think in the title hunt.
2003 was a decent team with Whitehurst, and uga only won by 3 after uga benched the starting qb and the backup was quick guy who made a lot of plays with his feet.
last year Clemson's team was more talented but it was first game of season on the road with two new QBs, and the best one didn't start. we also had new starters at WR and RB, a new kicker who was shakey (recently busted for crack cocaine), and several of our stud defensive players were not allowed to play b/c Dabo is a hardass.
2002 we had issues too, and uga was real good that year, i think in the title hunt.
2003 was a decent team with Whitehurst, and uga only won by 3 after uga benched the starting qb and the backup was quick guy who made a lot of plays with his feet.
last year Clemson's team was more talented but it was first game of season on the road with two new QBs, and the best one didn't start. we also had new starters at WR and RB, a new kicker who was shakey (recently busted for crack cocaine), and several of our stud defensive players were not allowed to play b/c Dabo is a hardass.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:11 pm to Jamie Lannister
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with two new QBs, and the best one didn't start. we also had new starters at WR and RB, a new kicker who was shakey (recently busted for crack cocaine), and several of our stud defensive players were not allowed to play b/c Dabo is a hardass.
I've never seen so many excuses in what I guess you'd call a sentence.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:14 pm to Jamie Lannister
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uga got lucky and played Clemson in many of their bad seasons especially early 90s.
wow, what a farce. Let me blow this up for you.
1990: Clemson won, I'm sure you're counting that one with no complaints! UGA went 4-7 that year. Using your logic we should brush that aside.
1991: UGA went 9-3, pretty good year for us. We still had ray goff though. We were unranked going into the clemson game (clemson being ranked 6th nationally) and we won.
1994: UGA went 6-4-1...still beat clemson by 26
1995: UGA went 6-6...went to death valley and beat an 8-4 clemson team
You know about our most recent wins. I also think it's funny how hypocritical you are considering in 2013 clemson went 11-2 and finished in the top 10 while UGA finished with 5 losses, yet you barely won by 3 in a game that wasn't decided til the final whistle.
Bottom line as it relates to your point; you want to brush aside many of clemson's losses by saying "it was because UGA was having a good season at the time and it was unfortunate yall were on the schedule that year"....ya know why that is? Because we are a far, far superior football program and more often than not when the 2 teams play, we will be the better team.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:14 pm to Jamie Lannister
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it is misleading to talk about 25 years, if they only played 8 years of the 25. uga got lucky and played Clemson in many of their bad seasons especially early 90s.
2002 we had issues too, and uga was real good that year, i think in the title hunt.
2003 was a decent team with Whitehurst, and uga only won by 3 after uga benched the starting qb and the backup was quick guy who made a lot of plays with his feet.
last year Clemson's team was more talented but it was first game of season on the road with two new QBs, and the best one didn't start. we also had new starters at WR and RB, a new kicker who was shakey (recently busted for crack cocaine), and several of our stud defensive players were not allowed to play b/c Dabo is a hardass.
Huh? They won it like 30-0.
Posted on 7/25/15 at 2:19 pm to Jamie Lannister
Tell yourself whatever you need to...Clemson is not academically on par with UGA....just stop...it's not athletically on par (your excuses don't change the head to head)) ... it's not historically on par (lol) ..and as a college town it's not on par (Your women, university and party scene are not as good when compared to Athens...and half a dozen other schools I can think of at this moment)..
Young man, if you're a graduate of Clemson..and actually believe the diarrhea that flows freely from your mouth and is dribbling down your chin...step away from the interwebz for a while and give your Alma Mater the respect it deserves.....You're excuses are shameful and embarrassing...
woulda,,,coulda..shoulda...almost...had this happen...in my opinion....Grow a Set...
Young man, if you're a graduate of Clemson..and actually believe the diarrhea that flows freely from your mouth and is dribbling down your chin...step away from the interwebz for a while and give your Alma Mater the respect it deserves.....You're excuses are shameful and embarrassing...
woulda,,,coulda..shoulda...almost...had this happen...in my opinion....Grow a Set...
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 2:22 pm
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