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Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by marshallcotiger
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:26 pm to
I like USC to edge out UGA in the East with UF finishing 3rd. Talent wise there isn't a lot of separation in the top 3 teams but it is my opinion that USC has the more manageable schedule. I see the rest of the East finishing like this: Mizzou 4th, UT 5th, Vandy 6th and UK 7th.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

quote:Another example closer to home... South Carolina driving the field on UGA. 3rd and short from the goalline. You tell me... does South Carolina win this game?Yes. This year, with this year's SCAR OLine and Davis and Wilds and Williams able to power through, yes. Now, we sometimes have a problem with Spurrier wanting to get cute but I think he learned his lesson early last season and realized the best way to handle those situations is to just line-up and bang it home. At the same time, Davis had a little fumblitis in a couple of games inside the five last year after he broke a finger. I hear he is going to wear gloves this year, but who knows


You should pay closer attention to the games.
S.Cars inability to score in that situation cost them the game.
But it wasn't Spurrier getting cute. The option playcall was flawless. The execution was pathetic. Your right tackle allowed Jordan Jenkins to trip him off the snap. The option allows you to run with numbers to the playside. But Jenkins tripping the RT messed up your numbers. Jordan Jenkins (read man) is unblocked and forces the pitch. Amarlo Herrera comes in clean (also unblocked) to stuff the play (all the right tackle had to do was chip Amarlo, but the guys was sprawled out on the grass and cost you guys the ballgame).

S.Car fans blaming Spurrier don't know what happened on that play.
Dawg fans don't give 2 flips. We won a hard fought one and are going to attempt to make it 2 in a row.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:21 pm to
WTF? You asked and I answered "this year" and you force some last year bullshite into the conversation and try to read righteous and preachy to Gamecock fans?

Are you a woman or something?

frick you lady. You're no longer welcome here. This is a private men's club, even the skirts around here know that.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:27 pm to
Look at schedules of the east teams....UF plays USC, Mizzou at home...LSU at home, UK ditto. The WLOCP will be one sided as the Gators take out their frustrations on the leghumpers. USC will lose in the Swamp. Mizzou and LSU leave with heads hung down.
UF wont be playing their third string qb this year folks and the SEC will be surprise surprise.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:36 pm to
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the SEC will be surprise surprise.


Gomer Pyle style?

I thought he was an Auburn fan.

BTW ... no one witl be surprised if UF does well this season, but if believing that gives you a motivational collective chip on your shoulders then que sera sera. I thought only UT had fallen that far.

Fricking big dogs in the East better buck-up and get with the program.
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
5471 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:40 pm to
My personal opinion:

1. UGA
2. USC
3. UF
4. UT
5. Mizzou
6. UK
7. Vandy

Yes it's slightly homeristic, as 4th in the east would likely mean that Tennessee gets 7 wins which I think isn't totally unreasonable.

UK had a decent recruiting class and they'll probably make a little bit of noise soon, but not just yet. Similar situation to Tennessee, just not as good, with not quite as much young talent as we have.

Vanderbilt's switching to an entirely different defensive scheme and they don't have the personnel to run it effectively. A ridiculous amount of receiving yards are gone now too. They will get 4 wins minimum because of how soft their OOC is, but I see them struggling in SEC play. They won't be able to take advantage of a weak UGA or UF, and they're not beating Tennessee again. (If they do go ahead and call 911 as I'll likely be dead of alcohol poisoning.)

Mizzou loses a lot of personnel too. Both defensive ends, two linebackers, and both corners off the defense. They lose all three starting WRs, Offensive guard and tackle, TE, and Josey (although their other RBs are solid.)

UF is a bit of a mystery. How good is Roper? Cutcliffe is obviously the brains behind the Duke offense, but exactly how much of that can be attributed to Roper? Can Driskel finish off his career well? How are the receivers going to be? Offensive line? I know they had big struggles last year... sometimes with blocking the OTHER team. I expect the defense to still be good, especially their secondary, but their run defense might just take a step back.

USC will be really good. I'm just not sure they'll be as good as they were last year. Connor Shaw was a man's man at QB and what I've seen of Thompson I'm not convinced he'll completely be able to fill his shoes. But other than that their offense is going to be super solid with Byrd and Roland and Davis. Clowney and Quarles gone too, so I'm not sure how they're going to be on the D line. Their linebacking corps are very solid, but that secondary... looks problematic.

UGA's season will live or die by how well their offensive line plays and how well Hutson Mason can handle the QB position. The WR's are all solid, Gurley is... Gurley, and Hutson Mason is probably going to be solid, but not anywhere near Murray level. The Offensive line returns only two starters, but it's the center and a tackle so the situation isn't as bad as ours but not by a whole lot. That defense has a lot of potential though. A whole lot of experience is returning and some really good talent. That's the main reason I have them winning the east.

This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 9:56 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

My personal opinion:

1. UGA
2. USC
3. UF
4. UT
5. Mizzou
6. UK
7. Vandy

Yes it's slightly homeristic, as 4th in the east would likely mean that Tennessee gets 7 wins which I think isn't totally unreasonable.


Not unreasonable.

But who is UK out-recruiting?

You're underestimating Roper at UF.

You're saying UGA's D will be their strength while 99% of everyone else is saying it will be their weakness?





Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
5471 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:54 pm to
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But who is UK out-recruiting?

You're underestimating Roper at UF.

You're saying UGA's D will be their strength while 99% of everyone else is saying it will be their weakness?


1. Vanderbilt for one and tightening the rather large gap they've found themselves in the past several years.

2. I hope not, but we'll see.

3. Yeah I just have a feeling. They've had too much D talent recruited and they're returning just about everyone. I think they will reap the benefits of another year of preparation.

Posted by kidbourbon
Member since Jul 2009
1306 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:09 pm to
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You're underestimating Roper at UF.


No, he's not.
Posted by kidbourbon
Member since Jul 2009
1306 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:10 pm to
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You're saying UGA's D will be their strength while 99% of everyone else is saying it will be their weakness?


Why would it be a weakness?
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:15 pm to
Oh, shut it, bobby
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:27 pm to
No Respect!!!
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:28 pm to
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Oh, shut it, bobby
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:33 pm to
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S.Cars inability to score in that situation cost them the game.
I remember thinking that Shaw's fumble on our first drive of the second half in the red-zone was the big reason we lost but I've forgotten a lot from that game. It was on fourth down and Shaw had ran and got the first but then fumbled. Another big moment was when Bruce lost that ball in the sun and failed to make a crucial catch.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:40 pm to
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I remember thinking that Shaw's fumble on our first drive of the second half in the red-zone was the big reason we lost but I've forgotten a lot from that game. It was on fourth down and Shaw had ran and got the first but then fumbled. Another big moment was when Bruce lost that ball in the sun and failed to make a crucial catch.


Exactly. That's the Gamecock perspective ... mean Sonny (lulz) doesn't remember it that way.
Posted by Nicolae
Member since Dec 2012
1880 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 12:19 am to
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Nicolae ... you may be the new dumbass standard on the SECr among the UGA fans. UGA fans, as a whole, are well-versed. You seem to be the exception.


Quickest way to get called a dumbass on the Rant? Bring facts into the conversation. (On some level, I suppose bringing facts here and expecting them to be acknowledged does make me a dumbass. )

quote:

FWIW, no, you don't have a single RB on your team faster than David Williams (4.38 and second fastest man on SCAR's team behind WR Byrd), and probably not Shon Carson (legit 4.4 LINK).



quote:

While Marshall was timed at 4.25 in the 40 at UNC's camp, he also runs with power, balance and vision -- which is a big reason he has already been named to the 2012 Under Armour All-America Game. ESPN


Sony has a legit 4.4 just like Shon, so does Chubb (4.44). Both times from the Opening. Sony was running in the 4.3s before his injury and could well get that speed back working in a college S&C with a world-class speed trainer.

Gurley has been clocked at 4.43 and represented the United States in France at the World Youth Championships in 110m hurdles. He has been clocked as fast as 4.38, but I couldn't find the link. You seriously think he isn't fast? LINK
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 12:37 am to
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Posted byMessage
Volatile


quote:


1. UGA
2. USC
3. UF
4. UT
5. Mizzou
6. UK
7. Vandy


quote:

UF is a bit of a mystery. How good is Roper? Cutcliffe is obviously the brains behind the Duke offense, but exactly how much of that can be attributed to Roper? Can Driskel finish off his career well? How are the receivers going to be? Offensive line? I know they had big struggles last year... sometimes with blocking the OTHER team. I expect the defense to still be good, especially their secondary, but their run defense might just take a step back


Fair assessment from outsider. What rivals (and a lot of Gator fans who are uninformed) don't know is that 2013 was a complete disaster from the getgo..2 OL out from day one and then it got worse from there. Our starting five OL will have starting experience except for one upperclassman perhaps (depending on starters)).

UF had 59 players board plane for Columbia last November and four were walk ons for special teams and we had a third string qb. We fought USC tooth and nail until 4th qt collapse. Watch the girls school tape and you will see UF outplayed them for 1.5 qts until starters on defense got worn down from lack of subs.

Our Lbs are now healthy and our defense will be tougher than a five dollar steak. Driskel is now r/s junior and will show folks how dangerous he can be at qb. WR corp will be greatly improved and we have Kelvin Taylor at RB along with Adam Lane to go with 2012 players Jones and Brown. We will run the ball and keep defenses guessing. I expect Driskel to break many long runs with the defenses spread out.

AU vs UF in SECCG
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:49 am to
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You're underestimating Roper at UF.


I seriously doubt it.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:51 am to
Who knows how good Roper will be. But everyone is underestimating the amount of talent UF has when fully healthy.

Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 7:21 am to
UF is the greatest unknown in the SEC this year. Honestly, no one has a clue. Even UF fans that actually know the roster and understand the injury situation from last year don't really know how it will all work out.

But I've said it before and I'll say it again, if UF has even a serviceable offense they will win the SEC east and shock everyone, because the defense is going to be nasty again, especially now that it's healthy.
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