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Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:06 pm to Sarcastro
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:06 pm to Sarcastro
The best running team is not the team with the most yards or yards per run.
Running the football on 1st and 2nd down racks up meaningless stats.
Money downs are 3rd and/or goalline.
Can a team efficiently move the chains on 3rd and 2. Or are they going to go to the air a lot (UGA went to the air a lot in 2013).
Can a team punch it in from the redzone on the ground? Or will they go to the air?
Crucial games are won and lost in these scenarios in the SEC.
The rushing TDs is the number that I would focus upon unless you want to dig deep into number of third down rushing attempts versus the number of third down rushing conversions per back.
Running the football on 1st and 2nd down racks up meaningless stats.
Money downs are 3rd and/or goalline.
Can a team efficiently move the chains on 3rd and 2. Or are they going to go to the air a lot (UGA went to the air a lot in 2013).
Can a team punch it in from the redzone on the ground? Or will they go to the air?
Crucial games are won and lost in these scenarios in the SEC.
The rushing TDs is the number that I would focus upon unless you want to dig deep into number of third down rushing attempts versus the number of third down rushing conversions per back.
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:08 pm to Sarcastro
Funny that stat is with gurley and marshall out half the year but uga still leads.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:09 pm to deeprig9
The stat is returning players.
Mizzou lost a beast in Josey.
Mizzou lost a beast in Josey.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:10 pm to meansonny
UGA fans are excited about a full year of Gurley, Marshall, Chubb, and Sony.
But the OL and health are question-marks.
Davis is an established beast in the conference for SCar.
But they did lose a lot of advantages on the ground with Shaw (is Thompson even as mobile as Garcia?)
Mizzou has a couple of talented, young backs. But they aren't proven elite. And Mauk is a poor man's Conner Shaw. I don't know if he can be as tough and effective for a full year.
But the OL and health are question-marks.
Davis is an established beast in the conference for SCar.
But they did lose a lot of advantages on the ground with Shaw (is Thompson even as mobile as Garcia?)
Mizzou has a couple of talented, young backs. But they aren't proven elite. And Mauk is a poor man's Conner Shaw. I don't know if he can be as tough and effective for a full year.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:13 pm to CockRocket
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Congrats on proving his point?
I think his point was made. Last year, Mizzou depended on 3 RBs who carried the ball somewhat equally. Our two returning backs with experience had greater YPC than Georgia's or USC's. It might be reasonable to infer that, assuming similar YPC, they will be quite good this season. And very competitive with, if not better than other programs in the east.
That's not a knock on Georgia, USC, Florida or anyone else. I just think perhaps Mizzou's running game is being underestimated, especially since I believe our OL will be strong. But that's fine, we like being the underdog.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:15 pm to semotruman
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Last year, Mizzou depended on 3 RBs who carried the ball somewhat equally.
bullshite.
Break down their touchdown production for me please.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:18 pm to semotruman
quote:If and buts, I know, but I'd like to see how UGA's YPC would be with a healthy TG and KM all year.
Our two returning backs with experience had greater YPC than Georgia's or USC's.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:20 pm to slayerxing
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That's still more than anyone else in the division.
This could one of those cases where it would be better not to have stats than have the ones he has. At least with the other quarterbacks, there's still hope they could prove to be good. With Driskel, it's pretty much down to "Hope the light finally comes on somehow." It could still happen, but I imagine even die-hard UF fans are wondering whether that #1 dual-threat they managed to snag out of high school will ever live up to his billing. I get the injury thing, and that's a valid excuse, but he was pretty rough even when healthy.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:20 pm to meansonny
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RUSHING STATISTICS
NAME CAR YDS AVG LONG TD
Henry Josey 174 1166 6.7 86 (TD) 16
Russell Hansbrough 114 685 6.0 51 (TD) 4
Marcus Murphy 92 601 6.5 42 9
James Franklin 122 510 4.2 26 4
Maty Mauk 41 229 5.6 35 1
Morgan Steward 21 84 4.0 14 1
Greg White 9 36 4.0 10 0
Harold Brantley 1 26 26.0 26 0
Braylon Webb 1 3 3.0 3 0
Dorial Green-Beckham 1 3 3.0 3 0
Totals 588 3330 5.7 86 35
Kind of a shitty C&P, but that's the stats.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:23 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
TG tied Yeldon with 6ypc last year, leading the sec. And TG was hobbled.
He was also ugas third leading receiver... Hobbled.
ETA Josey gone.... you mizzou's know i was as big a josey fan as you can get outside of columbia.
He was also ugas third leading receiver... Hobbled.
ETA Josey gone.... you mizzou's know i was as big a josey fan as you can get outside of columbia.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:27 pm to scrooster
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SCAR's OLine should be the difference maker. We'll see.
SCAR's depth at RB, and talented depth at RB, is going to surprise some people. RFr David Williams is special. Size, power, world class speed, runs behind his pads, very fluid, good hips, good vision ... he might really shock some people. He is very very good and he's fourth on the depth chart at RB.
Several things in USC's favor....not that ultimately it'll end up that way, but:
As you say, USC's OL versus UGA's front 7: UGA's LBs are very good, but USC's OL may be good enough in it's own right to cancel them out...
The Williams-Brice Factor: it has been known to intimidate UGA teams in the past, and last time they were there, they were embarrassed in monumental proportions. That UGA team was averaging at 50 pts per gm on the season heading into that game: they score 7 against USC...
UGA will depend on their very talented RB unit, as well they should. But if anything USC's strength on defense will be in the middle: DTs, LBs, safeties. Will Gurley and Marshall be able to get to the edges to make their big gains?
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:32 pm to slayerxing
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That's still more than anyone else in the division.
Yea, because he has starts. Doesn't mean he's a good qb.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:36 pm to ConwayGamecock
quote:Will two of the fastest RBs in the nation make it to the edge? I'm pretty damn sure they'll be able to.
Will Gurley and Marshall be able to get to the edges to make their big gains?
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:37 pm to ConwayGamecock
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Several things in USC's favor....not that ultimately it'll end up that way, but:
As you say, USC's OL versus UGA's front 7: UGA's LBs are very good, but USC's OL may be good enough in it's own right to cancel them out...
The Williams-Brice Factor: it has been known to intimidate UGA teams in the past, and last time they were there, they were embarrassed in monumental proportions. That UGA team was averaging at 50 pts per gm on the season heading into that game: they score 7 against USC...
UGA will depend on their very talented RB unit, as well they should. But if anything USC's strength on defense will be in the middle: DTs, LBs, safeties. Will Gurley and Marshall be able to get to the edges to make their big gains?
That's the big question.
The great embarrasment of 2012 was that UGA could never establish the running game.
Also, so much of the game plan was Murray changing the play at the LOS and the Cola crowd noise wasn't allowing him to do it, relying on visual cues that yall's D picked up on.
Hopefully Bobo learned his lesson and changed the scheme.
If I recall correctly, we won the East that year anyway, and almost went to the NC, so the Carolina game really doesn't matter that much, win or lose.
The Carolina Kiss ?
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:40 pm to meansonny
Yards on 1st and 2nd down are meaningless, huh?
Ok. I get what you are trying to say. Can you run when the other team knows you are running. Look at the Ole Miss game last year. I think we held the ball for the last 8 or so minutes and that was Murphy doing most of that.
Mizzou will run the ball quite well again. Two very good backs and an experienced OL with the best Center in the East. Not to mention Mauk is by far the biggest threat with his feet in the division.
If I have any worries on offense they would be playmakers on the outside and Mauk improving his accuracy. The ground game should be quite good.
Ok. I get what you are trying to say. Can you run when the other team knows you are running. Look at the Ole Miss game last year. I think we held the ball for the last 8 or so minutes and that was Murphy doing most of that.
Mizzou will run the ball quite well again. Two very good backs and an experienced OL with the best Center in the East. Not to mention Mauk is by far the biggest threat with his feet in the division.
If I have any worries on offense they would be playmakers on the outside and Mauk improving his accuracy. The ground game should be quite good.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:46 pm to JesusQuintana
quote:When did David Andrews transfer to Mizzou?
with the best Center in the East.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:46 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Will two of the fastest RBs in the nation make it to the edge? I'm pretty damn sure they'll be able to.
Wonder why the didn't two years ago?
Lattimore, coming off knee surgery, had more total yards and more YPC than Gurshall.
Of course that was two years ago and I don't believe in transitives .... but, since you mentioned it in the first place.
SCAR's OLine's forte will be running the ball. They are big and physical and athletic and experienced. Pass protection is secondary because Thompson gets rid of the ball in a hurry and our running game will setup the passing game and not visa versa.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:51 pm to scrooster
quote:Besides the fact that they were true freshmen at the time and we had a true freshman at T and a behemoth playing at T instead of his natural position at G you can see Deeprig's post just two posts above mine for an explanation.
Wonder why the didn't two years ago?
quote:I don't believe I brought up the game two years ago. I was talking about this year only.
Of course that was two years ago and I don't believe in transitives
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:52 pm to meansonny
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The best running team is not the team with the most yards or yards per run.
Running the football on 1st and 2nd down racks up meaningless stats.
Money downs are 3rd and/or goalline.
Sheesh .... are you a mizxourite alter? The only posts I've ever seen that are that dumb are usually from mizzourites.
Ever heard of "3rd and short?" How about "2nd and short?"
Care to rephrase or restate your case before the whole thing gets blown-up?
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:54 pm to scrooster
He's got a point and stats to back them up but I don't know if he'll come back in this thread. He doesn't post as often as he should.
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