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re: SEC Coaches by performance in the Weekly AP Poll

Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by MNW
Starkville, MS
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:28 pm to
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despite the fact he was exponentially more successful than a guy like Dan Mullen.


In a division that Mullen is currently 13-3 against, West to East is apples and oranges

ETA: apologies 14-4
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:29 pm to
Mississippi State could return a ton off a 8 or 9 win team and still would be behind teams like Auburn, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, and A&M in AP preseason or in Preseason football magazine.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:31 pm to
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nor have many Georgia fans hyped him since his arrival


Maybe you haven't but I think your bias is kicking in here a little bit. Georgia fans aren't immune to the unrealistic hyping that happens everywhere.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:35 pm to
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Tell me what you expectations should be if you were a Mississippi State fan?


Any program in the SEC with the amount of cash that is coming in from the Network coupled with fair distributions among all the programs is capable of being a Top 25 program at any given time over a long span of years.

But the question is not "What should be the expectations be at Mississippi State?" The issue is that the Mullen-hypers claim he's the 2nd best coach in the league, when his results are nowhere close to that mark.

No one disputes the fact that Mullen has done an alright job AT MISSISSIPPI STATE. What is disputed is that somehow what he's done at Mississippi State makes him the 2nd best coach in the league. THAT is where the problem lies.
Posted by 4th and 1
Member since Sep 2013
282 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:36 pm to
Sumlin at #3 just goes to show polls are meaningless popularity contests. What matters is the wins and championships.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:39 pm to
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The issue is that the Mullen-hypers claim he's the 2nd best coach in the league, when his results are nowhere close to that mark.



The issue is that you could destroy any coach listed as 2nd best in the SEC.
Posted by RebelTheBear
Saban's spare bedroom
Member since Aug 2016
5531 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:40 pm to
Forgot they finished second. Corrected.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:42 pm to
I'm betting you're 17
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:44 pm to
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I'm betting you're 17
Dude, you are like 20, stfu.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:52 pm to
24*

Fight me
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:54 pm to
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24
shite, has it really been that long since you were an lsu fan set to start college in baton rouge? Time flies when you get old.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112611 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:55 pm to
Been here nearly a decade now, for better or worse
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140352 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:01 pm to
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Florida fans think I'm obsessed with Mac. Maybe I just like pointing out irrational hype


Where's the irrational hype for Mac?

I think most of us are near the end of our patience with him and more specifically his offenses.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Been here nearly a decade now, for better or worse



NIH is a Grind Legend
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:02 pm to
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The issue is that you could destroy any coach listed as 2nd best in the SEC.


Nah. Freeze had a logical claim to it until his ousting. I think Gus certainly makes a logical claim. Sumlin even has more of a claim than does Mullen. And while I personally think Florida is doomed to mediocrity as long as Mac is their coach, I could at least understand why someone might want to make that claim.

Gus won the SEC... the SEC West... and played for a National Title.... He's also taken Auburn to two major bowl games.

McElwain has won the East every year he's coached at Florida.

Sumlin coached A&M to a Top 5 finish in 2012 which included a win in Tuscaloosa. He's produced two team that finished in the Top 25 since 2012 while Mullen has the same number but with 3 extra years of trying.

There is zero rational credentials to justify the "Mullen 2nd best coach in the SEC" argument. Zero.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:03 pm to


How's life bundy?
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24933 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:05 pm to
NIH is our Grind legal team.

You can find his number on bus bench's all over Lafayette.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:06 pm to
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Where's the irrational hype for Mac?

I think most of us are near the end of our patience with him and more specifically his offenses.


Well I do think Florida fans started to see the truth after the loss to Michigan. But up until this past season most Florida fans on this board seemed unrealistic at looking at the real facts.

I think any coach has to have at least 2 full years under his belt before his resume can begin to be compared to others. So I'll leave out Kirby, Odom, Muschamp, and whoever Ole Miss' coach is now. Here's how I'd rank the SEC coaches that are left:

1. Saban

2. Gus
3. Mac
4. Sumlin
5. Mullen
6. Mason
7. Jones
8. Bielema
9. Stoops
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:06 pm to
shite, I've been known about NIH, just couldn't believe it has been that long since he was trying to be an LSU fan/frat star.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112611 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:07 pm to
Hoping Evan can swing me an in house gig @ pornhub
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