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re: SEC almost added Miami and Houston

Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:23 pm to
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an you imagine if recruiting was still under the control of the alumni or outside groups?


no kidding, the dog and pony Big Top would be unbearable..

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:43 pm to
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Florida Atlantic and Florida International aren't diluting anyones talent base


Both schools have 15 players total on NFL rosters...even bottom dwellers can dilute a talent base...especially for one thats owned their particular area for 3 decades.
When you have 85 scholarships per roster every little bit helps.Who knows some of those Fa Atlantic and International guys have been walk ons or been given last minute offers from UM.

I meant to include USF in the original post but I think both them and UCF have both put a dent in the "state of Miami's" talent pool.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29225 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:48 pm to
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No way we should ever consider Miami. They bring zero.


Nada





It would be really funny watching visiting teams invade the Orange Bowl like Vanderbilt home games
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36372 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:53 pm to
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It simply means they dont have the fanbase


I lived in Miami for 18 years. They have a huge following still to this day. The little success they had last year made everyone emerge from hiding for a few weeks.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 1:54 pm
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:14 pm to
I find it a little strange that a conference dominated by flagship state schools would have considered 2 inner-city schools back then.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:15 pm to
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I lived in Miami for 18 years. They have a huge following still to this day. The little success they had last year made everyone emerge from hiding for a few weeks.


All the bandwagon fans crawled out of the cracks?
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:15 pm to
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dominated by flagship



y'all don't dominate shite
Posted by PAGator
Member since Jul 2015
2339 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:16 pm to
At the time, Tulane and Georgia Tech were in the conference. Although GT is a state school, it's still pretty similar to both of them. Along with Vanderbilt, they really wouldn't have been that out of place
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:20 pm to
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Smaller school than Vandy as well, they dont have the sidewalk fans either


They have some sidewalk fans.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:22 pm to
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y'all don't dominate shite


SEC flagship schools:

Alabama
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Mississippi
Tennessee
LSU

Non-flagship:

Vanderbilt
MSU
Auburn

Am I missing something?
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:25 pm to
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At the time, Tulane and Georgia Tech were in the conference. Although GT is a state school, it's still pretty similar to both of them. Along with Vanderbilt, they really wouldn't have been that out of place

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Yea, you're right. I just think of the SEC, Big Ten and Pac-10 as conferences that used to dominate because most members were flagships. I always considered that a problem with the SWC when we were still a member.

edit: I should have included the Big-8 in there, too.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted by PAGator
Member since Jul 2015
2339 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:54 pm to
The problem with the SWC is that it consisted of as many private schools as state schools

Private
TCU
SMU
Baylor
Rice

Public
Arkansas
Houston (special case)
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech

All of them being in the same state with mediocre histories doesn't help either. It gets old watching Arkansas, Texas or Texas A&M win every single year
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 2:58 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:55 pm to
I didn't say it would. I said them popping out a 3-5 NC run over a decade would pull in more cash for the SEC, and make up for their crowd issues.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:58 pm to
How are they going to go on that run when they don't have the talent?

The don't have the talent because they don't have good facilities or an elite coach.

They don't have facilities or an elite coach because they don't have the money for it.

They don't have the money for it, so they would have to suck up SEC money to be competitive.

If they need SEC money to go on a run, then what good are they to the SEC for money making purposes?

They aren't is the answer, you just like the teams that were good when you were little to be good again.
Posted by AUBorn
Itumpka Youtumpka Wetumpka, AL
Member since Aug 2013
933 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 3:30 pm to
Great find.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40136 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

At the time, Tulane and Georgia Tech were in the conference. Although GT is a state school, it's still pretty similar to both of them. Along with Vanderbilt, they really wouldn't have been that out of place


Tulane started cutting back on athletics in 1951 so they hadn't gone full retard in 1955 but they were headed in that direction. It wasn't until the 60s that they went made the greatest blunder in the history of college athletics and then decided to abandon Tulane Stadium for the Superdome. It is ashame that Tulane made such bad decisions. Prior to 1951 the Battle for the Rag was somewhat competitive. If I counted right before the 1951 de-emphisis of athletics LSU lead the series 23-17. If they had just tore down the upperdeck of the old Tulane stadium and renovated the lowere brick part of the stadium it could have been a nice 40-50K seat stadium. The original brick and concrete part of the stadium was gorgeous.


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This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 3:47 pm
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