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re: Saban says SEC should have a 10 conference game schedule
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The point that people are missing is that he is saying that everyone in the P5 would do this. The entire landscape would change. It would be more like the NFL, and things like scheduling 4 cupcakes for a bowl game wouldn't even be in the consideration.
Alabama's schedule would be
Auburn
Tennessee
LSU
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Missouri
Georgia
Kentucky
Texas A&M
Kansas State
UCLA
Ohio State's schedule would be
Michigan
Michigan State
Penn State
Rutgers
Maryland
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Indiana
Illinois
Nebraska
Texas A&M
Boston College
USC's schedule would be
UCLA
Arizona
Arizona State
Utah
Colorado
Washington
Oregon State
Oregon
Washington
Stanford
Pitt
Nebraska
Heck, you could even institute a SOS to select the OOC games each year. It'd be awesome, and it would really give us a much more clear picture of the best teams. And we wouldn't have to sit through games at Western Carolina and Florida International 2-3 times a year, and all 60ish big schools would all play eachother. I'd probably say 9 conference games / 3 OOC games to really get good data on the teams and conferences against each other (plus it would be fun), and 9 games would be enough to play eachother in conference more. Make the Big XII go back to 12 or even 14 and roll with it.
The non-P5 could join with 1AA and have a real, legitimate championship of their own, and the P5 could even subsidize it to an extent to keep them going (instead of scheduling them to subsidize them).
Alabama's schedule would be
Auburn
Tennessee
LSU
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Missouri
Georgia
Kentucky
Texas A&M
Kansas State
UCLA
Ohio State's schedule would be
Michigan
Michigan State
Penn State
Rutgers
Maryland
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Indiana
Illinois
Nebraska
Texas A&M
Boston College
USC's schedule would be
UCLA
Arizona
Arizona State
Utah
Colorado
Washington
Oregon State
Oregon
Washington
Stanford
Pitt
Nebraska
Heck, you could even institute a SOS to select the OOC games each year. It'd be awesome, and it would really give us a much more clear picture of the best teams. And we wouldn't have to sit through games at Western Carolina and Florida International 2-3 times a year, and all 60ish big schools would all play eachother. I'd probably say 9 conference games / 3 OOC games to really get good data on the teams and conferences against each other (plus it would be fun), and 9 games would be enough to play eachother in conference more. Make the Big XII go back to 12 or even 14 and roll with it.
The non-P5 could join with 1AA and have a real, legitimate championship of their own, and the P5 could even subsidize it to an extent to keep them going (instead of scheduling them to subsidize them).
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 8:26 pm
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:28 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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Truth. Saban can talk but I still see 3 rent-a-wins on our future schedules.
Unless every school is playing by the same rules I don't blame him for scheduling that way.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:48 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Alabama's schedule would be
Auburn
Tennessee
LSU
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Missouri
Georgia
Kentucky
Texas A&M
Kansas State
UCLA
So would be be going home and home with EVERY team on its schedule?So you wanna take 2 home dates away?
You really think the town of Tuscaloosa would go for that?Are you going to eliminate neutral site games?
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The non-P5 could join with 1AA and have a real, legitimate championship of their own,
Not way in hell non P5 schools go for this.
Colorado State just spent $230 million on a brand new
stadium and will open the season with Oregon State.
You think they want to replace that game with likes
of Furman or Western Carolina?
9 game schedule across the board might be a possibility but it still puts the cross conference instate rival teams at a disadvantage.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:16 pm to RD Dawg
The shitty cupcake schools fund their entire athletic departments on the revenue they get from playing P5 schools. If p5 schools stop all cupcake games then you put a whole bunch of athletic departments out of business and the end of scholarships for close to 1000 student athletes.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:18 pm to deeprig9
None of this was a problem until the hair brained idea to add mizz and tamu.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:33 pm to deeprig9
Go to 16 teams & some of that is illeviated.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:38 pm to RD Dawg
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Not way in hell non P5 schools go for this. Colorado State just spent $230 million on a brand new stadium and will open the season with Oregon State.
Well, that's where a discussion about how schools like the Big XII add 2 teams would come in - or the possibility of a 6th conference with the tweener schools like Boise, Colorado State, Cincinnati, etc.
However, a large swath of programs do not have nice new stadiums that sell out. The entire Sun Belt, most of CUSA, etc.
MTSU, Troy, UAB, UTSA, UTEP, New Mexico State, the MAC, etc should be playing Furman, Sam Houston State and McNeese, not Alabama and Texas.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:39 pm to deeprig9
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The shitty cupcake schools fund their entire athletic departments on the revenue they get from playing P5 schools. If p5 schools stop all cupcake games then you put a whole bunch of athletic departments out of business and the end of scholarships for close to 1000 student athletes.
No, because the Power 5 or whatever the "big school group" would be called would in all likelihood subsidize the smaller league the same way the NBA subsidizes the WNBA. They just wouldn't exchange it for a crappy game each year.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:39 pm to TeLeFaWx
12 games:
9 SEC (6 div, 3 cross-div)
2 Power Five opponents
1 FBS cupcake.
I think SEC teams should NEVER schedule games w/ FCS or lower division teams. No benefit to it
9 SEC (6 div, 3 cross-div)
2 Power Five opponents
1 FBS cupcake.
I think SEC teams should NEVER schedule games w/ FCS or lower division teams. No benefit to it
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:40 pm to RD Dawg
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So would be be going home and home with EVERY team on its schedule?So you wanna take 2 home dates away?
Yes, I'd go to 4-5 home games the same way I do now.
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You really think the town of Tuscaloosa would go for that?
6 home games all being big games? Hell yes I do. As opposed to having 7 now with 3 of them being Fresno, Mercer and Colorado State? 100%
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Are you going to eliminate neutral site games?
I'd love for that to be part of the equation, yes.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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No, because the Power 5 or whatever the "big school group" would be called would in all likelihood subsidize the smaller league the same way the NBA subsidizes the WNBA. They just wouldn't exchange it for a crappy game each year.
This sounds like pure fantasy. No more new startups like Kennesaw State football program in your world. Or Georgia State a few years ago.
Who is to say who gets more money between Furman and Kennesaw? Do the schools apply for their handout each year to the NCAA and then the NCAA goes through each school's size and need, and decide who gets what from the P5 schools, it would be a whole shite show.
Brookhaven doesn't have a Sonic, where can we meet?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:56 pm to deeprig9
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No more new startups like Kennesaw State football program in your world. Or Georgia State a few years ago.
Should there be more of them? Because if they can't sustain themselves, they shouldn't exist.
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Who is to say who gets more money between Furman and Kennesaw? Do the schools apply for their handout each year to the NCAA and then the NCAA goes through each school's size and need, and decide who gets what from the P5 schools, it would be a whole shite show.
You act like those schools already get some sort of merit pay. Kennesaw (they haven't even played a D1 team yet, so they aren't really in the equation) and Furman get their large chunks of money now solely from scheduling P5 games. It isn't like NDSU is getting a bunch of money because they are good and Western Carolina is getting none. NDSU and Western Carolina basically get the same check from Kansas State or Iowa.
I'm not even saying this would happen, they could just basically tell those schools to fend for themselves. But my guess is there would be some sort of compromise where the Big Conference League said "Listen, we aren't going to play you anymore, but for the good of your departments and the game we will give you a similar amount of money that you would get for your 1 paycheck game a year" or something like that.
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Brookhaven doesn't have a Sonic, where can we meet?
Stein Mart at the corner of Peachtree and North Druid. BE THERE OR BE SQUARE!
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 1:57 pm
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