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re: Saban and Chip Kelly Have Talked Re: Alabama's Open Offensive Coordinator Spot
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:31 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:31 pm to lsupride87
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Herman didnt try to retain Gilbert.....
Apparently neither did anyone needing a head coach, hence the move to USF.
Being the OC at Alabama would broaden his head coaching opportunities exponentially more than USF.
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:31 pm to TideSaint
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So a guy who is "knocking on the door" to be a head coach just went from the offensive coordinator position at Texas to the same role at South Florida, but he wouldn't take the OC spot at Alabama?
You may want to run that through your head one more time.
Coach Saban: Hey Sterlin, wanna coach all these 4-5*s up here for double your pay? My OCs keep getting hired away for really nice jobs.
Sterlin: Ummm...OK.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:33 pm to TideSaint
quote:Would it though? Does him having a top offense at USF, really hurt him more than having a 20th offense or so at Bama?
Being the OC at Alabama would broaden his head coaching opportunities exponentially more than USF.
Serious question
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:36 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:38 pm to TidalSurge1
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TidalSurge1
Bama OCs under Saban
Major-Fired
Jim Mac- to Colorado State-one of the worst programs in D1
Kiffin- to FAU-one of the worst programs in D1
I dont think it is necessarily easier to turn the Bama OC job into a good head coaching job.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:42 pm to lsupride87
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Does him having a top offense at USF, really hurt him more than having a 20th offense or so at Bama?
If this is your logic, why would Canada leave Pitt for LSU?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:42 pm to lsupride87
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Would it though? Does him having a top offense at USF, really hurt him more than having a 20th offense or so at Bama?
Hurt him? No.
Would learning organizational structure, recruiting contacts, strength and conditioning programs, etc. from Saban help him get a head coaching job more than being an OC at South Florida? Absolutely.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:44 pm to Lg
quote:That is a fair point. I am not saying it is impossible, I am just pointing out times have changed in terms of coaches just automatically leaping to the big name programs. It isnt as simple as "we are bigger with more 5 stars, come here."
If this is your logic, why would Canada leave Pitt for LSU?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:45 pm to TideSaint
quote:Fair point. But if Mac and Smart dont turn it around, there will be a hiatus on the Saban tree.
Would learning organizational structure, recruiting contacts, strength and conditioning programs, etc. from Saban help him get a head coaching job more than being an OC at South Florida? Absolutely
I think Smart will, I am uncertain about Mac
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:47 pm to TideSaint
I'm so confused as to why Alabama fans want Chip Kelly, and why they think people are concerned with them getting Chip Kelly.
Bama fans constantly cried about Lane Kiffin not pounding the ball with the RBs.. do you really think Captain Spread will line up and pound the ball?
Bama fans constantly cried about Lane Kiffin not pounding the ball with the RBs.. do you really think Captain Spread will line up and pound the ball?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:48 pm to WilliamTaylor21
quote:I dont think Bama fans that understand football want Kelly. And I dont think Saban wants him either
I'm so confused as to why Alabama fans want Chip Kelly, and why they think people are concerned with them getting Chip Kelly.
Bama fans constantly cried about Lane Kiffin not pounding the ball with the RBs.. do you really think Captain Spread will line up and pound the ball?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:48 pm to lsupride87
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I am just pointing out times have changed in terms of coaches just automatically leaping to the big name programs.
I understand that but there are mainly two reasons coaches do that. Money being probably the first and getting the most exposure that they can to make it to the next level. Whether that is a HC or a move to the NFL. Where do you think he would have the best opportunity to make that happen?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:49 pm to lsupride87
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Major-Fired
He hated recruiting and cried in a staff meeting because he got yelled at. Would you want him as your OC or head coach?
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Jim Mac- to Colorado State-one of the worst programs in D1
He was a West Coast guy who used what he learned from Saban to land a Top 5 job and has won the SEC East in both of his seasons as the head coach at Florida.
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Kiffin- to FAU-one of the worst programs in D1
Kiffin was going to get the Houston job before the Texas high school coaches puffed out their chests and demanded Applewhite be hired instead.
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I dont think it is necessarily easier to turn the Bama OC job into a good head coaching job.
Maybe. Maybe not.
But think of it like this. We can all agree that Georgia, Florida and Florida State are definitely in the Top 15 coaching jobs in all of college football and their head coaches are all Saban disciples. You can throw Derek Dooley in there too if you want from his time at Tennessee.
Who from Charlie Strong's coaching tree has made the leap to a Power 5, Top 15 program level head coach?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:49 pm to Gary Busey
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Scared
I hope you guys hire him, seriously.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:51 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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why they think people are concerned with them getting Chip Kelly.
I'd think the multiple threads being started about it by LSU fans prove otherwise.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:53 pm to TideSaint
quote:This is disengenuos
Who from Charlie Strong's coaching tree has made the leap to a Power 5, Top 15 program level head coach?
Mac didnt go to power 5 from Bama, he went to Colorado State
Jimbo also didnt go to power 5 from Saban.
Smart did go straight to power 5, but he was defensive coordinator
However, Strong has had two coaches become head coaches
Mike Sanford: Indiana State
Jay Norvell: Nevada
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:53 pm to TideSaint
quote:We have stupid fricking fans
I'd think the multiple threads being started about it by LSU fans prove otherwise.
I will throw out $1,000 for yall to hire Kelly
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:59 pm to BowlJackson
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Nick - "Hey Chip, you interested in being my OC?"
Chip - "frick off midget and tell your redneck fans to do the same."
Nick - "Ah-ight, we'll I'm going to tell the media I'm considering you so my search sounds legit."
How the conversation actually went, probably
This Kelly stuff has got y'all shitting your pants!..patheticPosted on 2/8/17 at 4:01 pm to lsupride87
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This is disengenuos
We are talking about what helps build a resume better, being an OC at Alabama or South Florida.
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Mac didnt go to power 5 from Bama, he went to Colorado State
Would Florida have hired Mac if he didn't coach at Alabama before Colorado State? Probably not. He won two NCs as our offensive coordinator.
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Jimbo also didnt go to power 5 from Saban.
He was named head coach in waiting at FSU directly because of his work with Saban.
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Smart did go straight to power 5, but he was defensive coordinator
It doesn't matter what side of the ball he comes from. He had experience working under the best in the business and he was rewarded for it.
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However, Strong has had two coaches become head coaches
Mike Sanford: Indiana State
Jay Norvell: Nevada
I mean Tennessee hired Derek Dooley not for what he did at Louisiana Tech, but for the time he spent with Saban.
Hell, Saban even got Bobby Williams a head coaching gig.
And speaking of Michigan State, I forgot Mark D'Antonio is a Saban disciple as well.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:01 pm to lsupride87
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We have stupid fricking fans
TBH, we all do. Unfortunately they seem to be the loudest and most obnoxious sometimes.
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