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Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:48 pm to TheDoc
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:49 pm to TheDoc
anymore dumb posts from you?
oh, and Randle is bad arse and will have a break out game or two this year against the SEC
oh, and Randle is bad arse and will have a break out game or two this year against the SEC
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:50 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I think Randle is the real deal, and I have since last year, relax you damn @#$%^&*($.
I don't think you can use that word on this site
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:50 pm to chilge1
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Watch game film. Jefferson's runs came on broken down plays, scrambles, designed runs, and sacks.
40% is still very high. The broken down plays, scrambles, and designed runs would probably not happen with a true pocket guy.
Joe Flacco ran the ball 11% of the time as a senior.
Mark Sanchez was under 13% last year.
JPW was a little over 18%.
Kodi Burns was at 35%.
Vince young was a little over 32% in his last year.
40% is very high and would not be considered a pocket guy by many people.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:50 pm to arwicklu
The reason why Jefferson ran more last year is because he didn't know half of the passing plays in the playbook. It was just the coaches managing his abilities to where he was mentally at the time. It's much easier to tell a player to run to the right than have a pass play where he has to read coverages and go through his progressions. You'll see he is just a pocket pass that happens to be very mobile.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:51 pm to arwicklu
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arwicklu
Starts for a QB:
Jefferson - 2
McElroy - 0
I guess if we go by stats only, Jefferson should be good and McElroy...not so much.
This post was edited on 8/8/09 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:51 pm to Papa Purple and Gold
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I think that this young man is going to have a Julio Jones/AJ Green type impact for the LSU Tigers. Brandon LaFell and Terrance Toliver being the #1 and #2 WR's is going to really open up his looks, imo.
Is he more like JJ or AJ. I think the two are night and day.
JJ reminds me of TO and AJ is the next Randy Moss IMO.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:51 pm to TheDoc
LOL @ Quinn Johnson juking the guy at 1:23
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:52 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
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The reason why Jefferson ran more last year is because he didn't know half of the passing plays in the playbook. It was just the coaches managing his abilities to where he was mentally at the time. It's much easier to tell a player to run to the right than have a pass play where he has to read coverages and go through his progressions.
We've already tried explaining this to him. It isn't working.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:53 pm to geauxtigahs87
People are just hopeful that he'll perform like Burns.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:55 pm to arwicklu
Joe Flacco ran the ball 11% of the time as a senior. --> Senior QB
Mark Sanchez was under 13% last year. --> Junior QB
JPW was a little over 18%. --> Senior QB
Kodi Burns was at 35%. --> Scrambling QB
Vince young was 32% in his last year. --> Scrambling QB
Jordan Jefferson was a TRUE FRESHMAN, PRO-STYLE QB
Mark Sanchez was under 13% last year. --> Junior QB
JPW was a little over 18%. --> Senior QB
Kodi Burns was at 35%. --> Scrambling QB
Vince young was 32% in his last year. --> Scrambling QB
Jordan Jefferson was a TRUE FRESHMAN, PRO-STYLE QB
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:56 pm to arwicklu
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40% is still very high. The broken down plays, scrambles, and designed runs would probably not happen with a true pocket guy.
Joe Flacco ran the ball 11% of the time as a senior.
Mark Sanchez was under 13% last year.
JPW was a little over 18%.
Kodi Burns was at 35%.
Vince young was a little over 32% in his last year.
40% is very high and would not be considered a pocket guy by many people.
Lmfao.. the dude was a true freshman
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:57 pm to TheDoc
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"I lean toward both ways," Jefferson said in assessing his own game.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 12:57 pm to geauxtigahs87
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We've already tried explaining this to him. It isn't working.
That's fine but you guys are basing it off excuses instead of reality. You can call the guy a pocket passer all day but until he learns to actually sit in the pocket, then he isn't one.
To this point he isn't a pro style or pocket passer in college regardless if it's because of happy feet, lack of playbook knowledge, bad offensive line play (which LSU didn't have), or any other reasons.
At this point in his college career you can't call him a pocket guy. He runs a higher percentage of plays than Vince Young. All your excuses and reason are fine but he hasn't proven he can be a pocket passer in college. Until he sits in the pocket and has some games over 150 yards, then I don't know how to defend your logic.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 1:00 pm to arwicklu
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That's fine but you guys are basing it off excuses instead of reality. You can call the guy a pocket passer all day but until he learns to actually sit in the pocket, then he isn't one.
To this point he isn't a pro style or pocket passer in college regardless if it's because of happy feet, lack of playbook knowledge, bad offensive line play (which LSU didn't have), or any other reasons.
At this point in his college career you can't call him a pocket guy. He runs a higher percentage of plays than Vince Young. All your excuses and reason are fine but he hasn't proven he can be a pocket passer in college. Until he sits in the pocket and has some games over 150 yards, then I don't know how to defend your logic.
So the typical gump argument is that we haven't seen enough of Jefferson to determine how he's going to play next year..
...Yet this gumps argument is that we have seen enough of Jefferson to know that he's a run-first QB who is going to run the ball 40% of the time.
Let's use NCAA as an example -- he should be listed as a "balanced" QB.
This post was edited on 8/8/09 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 8/8/09 at 1:01 pm to arwicklu
Do you realize probably 30% of his runs were designed runs? I really can't remember him running on his own much. The coaches were just taking advantage of his ability to where he was mentally.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 1:01 pm to arwicklu
He's a pocket guy like Mauck was a pocket guy. Still ran quite a bit.
Keep in mind that LSU's frame of reference for scrambling qb play is Shep, so I don't think you're going to win this argument.
Keep in mind that LSU's frame of reference for scrambling qb play is Shep, so I don't think you're going to win this argument.
Posted on 8/8/09 at 1:01 pm to arwicklu
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40% is still very high.
in 2.5 games
where he didn't know the full playbook
Posted on 8/8/09 at 1:02 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
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You'll see he is just a pocket pass that happens to be very mobile.
wait till he throws for over 300 yards on bama this year...
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