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re: Rationale Bama fans: how many starters do you bring back?

Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Swm323
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:12 am to
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I see the pattern, but even for Alabama it's going to be tough to replace the SEC's first ever 2000 yds rusher and arguably the greatest front 7 in CFB history. Again, if it were today I would bet on alabama to win the SEC. I just don't think '16 will be a better team than '15.



We aren't replacing the whole front 7 though. Key pieces are coming back. Ryan Anderson, Jon Allen, Tim Williams, Rashaan Evans, Rueban Foster. It's not like we are completely starting over.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:17 am to
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OldPete

Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:18 am to
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We aren't replacing the whole front 7 though. Key pieces are coming back. Ryan Anderson, Jon Allen, Tim Williams, Rashaan Evans, Rueban Foster. It's not like we are completely starting over.


I completely agree. Here is my 1st post in this thread.

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Calvin Ridley
ArDarius Stewart
OJ Howard
Cam Robinson
Ross P.
Alphonse Taylor
Jon Allen
Rueben Foster
Eddie Jackson
Marlon Humphrey

But they have a ton of depth guys like

Tim Williams
Dashawn Hand
Rashan Evans
Minkah Fitzpatrick
Daron Payne

Played so much they won't have an issue with plugging and playing. Bama's biggest issue is that for the first time since 2011 their breaking in a QB that's not an upper-classman and they don't have a proven stud RB. I know Bo is the next great, but he's injury prone and it'll be interesting to see if he can handle a Derrick Henry workload (40+ carries in big games)
Posted by flomacanes
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:23 am to
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You lose a Senior QB, All American Center and a 2000 yd rusher/Heisman winner and you think the offense gets better?


How much did losing SR QB Blake Sims, Biletnikoff winner and 1st Rd draft pick Amari Cooper as well as 2nd Rd. draft pick T.J. Yeldon which turned Bama's 2015 backfield into essentially a 1 man backfield hurt the 2015 team?
Posted by flomacanes
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:26 am to
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but this is starting to feel like Jeremy Johnson last year


Johnson had to be the linchpin in Gus's offense. When has a QB ever had to be more than just a "game manager" at Alabama under Saban?
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:27 am to
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which turned Bama's 2015 backfield into essentially a 1 man backfield hurt the 2015 team?
You mean the one with the fricking Heisman winner? I'm not repeating myself again, do yourself a favor and read the previous 2 pages.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:29 am to
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Johnson had to be the linchpin in Gus's offense. When has a QB ever had to be more than just a "game manager" at Alabama under Saban?
When you played Clemson in the National Title. Coker had to throw for over 300 yds and 2 TD's for ya'll to hang on and win by 3.
Posted by Swm323
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:33 am to
Until Bama has a down year I am going to assume that they will lose 0-1 regular season game. 2010 was the last year that Bama lost more than 1 regular season game. This might be the year or it might not be.. History says it probably isn't.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:33 am to
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Played so much they won't have an issue with plugging and playing. Bama's biggest issue is that for the first time since 2011 their breaking in a QB that's not an upper-classman and they don't have a proven stud RB. I know Bo is the next great, but he's injury prone and it'll be interesting to see if he can handle a Derrick Henry workload (40+ carries in big games)




I think this is a great, honest response. I watched Alabama sub all year and did not see a drop off on the field. Bo might be great, but you are right that no one knows yet. I would be most concerned about losing the senior center. That is the kind of experience that is always missed.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37609 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:36 am to
Bama will not take a step back.

Have you not been paying attention?
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:40 am to
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for ya'll to hang on and win by 3.
By 5.
Posted by Swm323
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:41 am to
Up by double digits with 20 seconds left.
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:44 am to
Over half of that came on two wide open throws and a screen pass. Even in that game he had several instances of misfires and holding the ball way too long.

The Oline should improve with a healthy Cam and another year of experience for the two guards. Kelly's departure is a major concern but Hassenauer should fill in nicely.

The RB situation is a concern with Harris not showing much last season.

Overall there is potential for the offense to improve based largely on what should be a better Oline. Between Cam dealing with injury and Jackson being a revolving door in a few games the pass pro was awful last season.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:46 am to
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Bama will not take a step back.

Have you not been paying attention?


I think the whole term starters is misleading when it comes to Alabama. Their depth allowed them to get plenty of experience for "non-starters".

I would probably be most concerned about the center, simply because that is one area I did not see a lot of extra experience provided to the new guy. I feel similarly about the RB situation. I guess you could say the same could be said about qb, but honestly, as long as the qb does not screw up with bad choices, he will be fine.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12869 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:49 am to
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You lose a Senior QB, All American Center and a 2000 yd rusher/Heisman winner and you think the offense gets better?

Passing wise, it should. Remember, Coker sucks dick right and now we have some competent young guys + ardarius stewart and calvin ridley with a year under their belt.

So, passing game may improve. Unlikely the run game does.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12869 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:51 am to
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When you played Clemson in the National Title. Coker had to throw for over 300 yds and 2 TD's for ya'll to hang on and win by 3.

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When you won the National Title...


Fixed that shite for you, chief.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 10:51 am
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7349 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:55 am to
Bama loses a lot ;however, Saban has them competing for a NC title again. Lsu loses very little, but I have absolutely zero Faith in our coaching staff.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:56 am to
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Bama will not take a step back.

Have you not been paying attention?
You're right Bama's the greatest ever they never lose anything, they've won the last 3 national titles. Don't tell Florida State or Ohio State though.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:56 am to
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Up by double digits with 20 seconds left.

Yeah, but my butt stayed puckered till their onside kick went out of bounds...
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19683 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 11:07 am to
the fact of the matter is we are in much better shape going into 2016 than we were going into 2015. On offense we lost 9 starters headed into 2015 including QB, 3 offensive linemen, all the receivers (including the best ever college receiver at bama), and the starting runningback (who is now an nfl starter). We did ok replacing all of those, produced a heisman runningback, a receiver that bested cooper's freshman stats, and turned Coker into a very good QB by the end of the season. This year on offense we have to replace 2 linemen, center and RT. Kelly is a big loss, but we have several good options from the ridiculous oline classes we have signed under cristobal. Our RT Jackson will be replaced with a super athletic 5 star juco tackle Charles Baldwin, should be a big upgrade (jackson would have been a hell of a guard). Ultimately i think the oline washes or is slightly better in 2016 with another year of experience for the 3 returning and a big talent upgrade at RT. We are stacked as frick at receiver and TE this year, and though no single back is going to match Henry's production, we will likely see out usual RB platoon scheme. Scarborough is even more physically gifted than Henry, can be special if he stays healthy. Harris was the top RB in his class for a reason, just needs to keep getting stronger. The big question mark is QB, but saban has a fantastic track record of winning with 1st year starters, and we have excellent raw material to work with. Cornwell and Barnett are the 2 most physically gifted QBs Saban has had at his disposal at bama. We will be fine on offense. On defense we return an incredible amount of talent. Someone had a chart listed bamas defensive starters by recruiting grade, and we have like 9 5 stars and 2 4 stars next year. Big experience at every position, returning almost all of our sack and interception production (best in the sec in both in 2015, will only be better next year)
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 11:14 am
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