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re: Rationale Bama fans: how many starters do you bring back?

Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:57 am to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:57 am to
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You lose a Senior QB
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and a 2000 yard rusher
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:59 am to
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starting to feel like Jeremy Johnson last year.




Okay
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:00 am to
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NG, DT, MLB, CB on defense.

Also both OLBs (Lee and Devall)...although their replacements got a lot of playing time this year (Williams, Anderson, Evans)...also losing a safety (Mattias-Smith)...guessing Harrison might replace him and he had a good bit of experience as well...
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:01 am to
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I think we upgrade talent at QB
The dude just lit up Michigan State and Clemson in the playoffs. I would pump the brakes on an upgrade with a freshman.
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I think we can mange a return to our norm for Rb production.
Bama's had an incredible run of RB's from Ingram/Coffee-Ingram/Richardson-Richardson/Yeldon-Yeldon/Henry-Henry killing people. Damien Harris looked bad, I mean really bad. Better hope Bo can hold up.
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The worse lose is Kelly and he will not be easy to replace.
Henry is your biggest loss. You're taking for granted the automatic conversions on 3rd and 4/less.

Bama has Saban and Saban is gonna win 10 games at a min. But I just don't see the offense getting better this year. The front 7 is going to take a dip, but your secondary could be great if they don't miss Mel Tucker too much.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:03 am to
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He may be, but this is starting to feel like Jeremy Johnson last year.
No. Auburn needs ridiculous production out of their QB to be successful, Alabama doesn't. Coker ended the season well but stop being a goober...he wasn't that good. If the starter next year can complete ~63% of his passes and not go all Coker with INTs, Alabama will be fine.

They return Foster, Stewart, Ridley, and Howard in the pass game. The offensive line WILL be better too. The offense should be better.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:05 am to
I think we have a chance to be better. The receivers go from a big question mark to a team strength. Three starters return on the OLine and we could be as good or better.

There is game experience at QB and young talent and we just have to see how that pans out. We do need players to step up at RB but if Scarborough realizes his potential we should be fine.

The defense will have a lot of experience and the secondary goes from a big question to a solid contributor. Both specialists are back but we will have to have newcomers step in at PR and KR , we will miss Cyrus Jones and Kenyon Drake.

This team has a chance to be just as good as last year, and maybe even better if we get good QB play. Should that happen there won't be any more loading the box with everyone but the mascot, teams will have to play us honest. It turns out it didn't work for Michigan State and Clemson all that well.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 9:08 am
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:05 am to
That's fine. You are entitled to your opinion. I just disagree. Going back and forth with you seems like a waste of time.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:06 am to
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Coker ended the season well but stop being a goober...he wasn't that good.
Without Coker playing his arse off, Alabama loses by 2 TD's to Clemson. I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest. The team I root for is a joke, I'm just making an honest assessment. Bama just won the title, now they replace some absolutely HUGE parts of that team (Coker, Henry, Kelly, Ragland, Cyrus Jones, A'Shawn, Devall and Reed) I just don't see them being better. They'll still be very good, hell they'll probably win the SEC again. But I would bet anything 2015 Bama > 2016 Bama.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83457 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:10 am to
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The dude just lit up Michigan State and Clemson in the playoffs. I would pump the brakes on an upgrade with a fresh
Guy, what the hell man? It took Coker 5 seasons and a REALLY rough first half of last season to even be serviceable. He finished strong and Alabama murdered teams on offense.
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Bama's had an incredible run of RB's from Ingram/Coffee-Ingram/Richardson-Richardson/Yeldon-Yeldon/Henry-Henry killing people. Damien Harris looked bad, I mean really bad. Better hope Bo can hold up.

He got hurt. It's not like this is his 7th non contact knee surgery. shite.
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Henry is your biggest loss. You're taking for granted the automatic conversions on 3rd and 4/less.

Bama has Saban and Saban is gonna win 10 games at a min. But I just don't see the offense getting better this year. The front 7 is going to take a dip, but your secondary could be great if they don't miss Mel Tucker too much.
Next year is going to be tough on you. You seem like a solid poster and you're WAY more informed than 90% of the other LSU fans...but damn...it's gonna be tough.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:13 am to
Stop and think. We lose a ton every year. Mc Carron is gone and Sims steps up, helps win the SEC and takes this team to the playoffs.

We lose Sims,Yeldon, Cooper and all our experienced WR's. Not to mention replace 3 OL's and an AA safety and win the national championship.

There's a pattern here.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83457 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:16 am to
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Without Coker playing his arse off, Alabama loses by 2 TD's to Clemson.
And without Jordan Jefferson LSU probably doesn't beat Alabama. Dude still sucked dick. I love Coker, but you're working the shite out of some revisionist history right now. And the above quote means literally nothing as far as upgrading/downgrading at QB. If Alabama plays Clemson week 1 next year and gets in an indentical game with them...I don't think Barnett/Bateman could win the game...is that what you want to hear? Btw...with Coker, week 1, Alabama loses that game by 21.

I know you're not being argumentative just to do it. You seem like a quality dude to me
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 9:18 am
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:18 am to
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Next year is going to be tough on you. You seem like a solid poster and you're WAY more informed than 90% of the other LSU fans...but damn...it's gonna be tough.
I appreciate the compliment. Next year won't be tough on me as far as college football is concerned. Miles has made most logical LSU fans apathetic to our program. Only thing that would make it tough would be an LF injury. I spend more time on Toldedo Bend Bass chasing in the fall to be honest with you.
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He got hurt. It's not like this is his 7th non contact knee surgery. shite.
If I'm not mistaken he missed a considerable amount of time in highschool as well to injuries. Did he not?
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Guy, what the hell man? It took Coker 5 seasons and a REALLY rough first half of last season to even be serviceable. He finished strong and Alabama murdered teams on offense.
I get that, but your defense and Henry could win games. I dont think Kelly, Ragland, Cyrus, A'SHAWN and Henry will be as easily replaced as most of you believe.

Posted by Roses of Crimson
Sweet home Ala-bam
Member since Nov 2014
1631 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:19 am to
Does it matter?

I know your agenda here. Alabama will be down.

We won't.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38376 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:19 am to
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lose a Senior QB, All American Center and a 2000 yd rusher/Heisman winner and you think the offense gets better?


2010 comes to mind.

Lost a senior quarterback (replaced with a sophomore) Julio Jones, Heisman winning running back, etc etc.

Y'all will learn one day, just probably not today
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:22 am to
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antibarner
I see the pattern, but even for Alabama it's going to be tough to replace the SEC's first ever 2000 yds rusher and arguably the greatest front 7 in CFB history. Again, if it were today I would bet on alabama to win the SEC. I just don't think '16 will be a better team than '15.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:27 am to
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You lose a Senior QB, All American Center and a 2000 yd rusher/Heisman winner and you think the offense gets better?



I do too, at least better than the average of the year. I think it will look more similar to the last 2 games except with another receiving threat, a better overall offensive line and a more mobile QB.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 9:30 am
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21688 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:37 am to
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Solo Cam


Yet another LSU fan who understands Bama's team better than Bama fans. It's like a broken record ...

"Bama can NEVER replace what they lost this time! Bama can NEVER replace what they lost this time! Bama can NEVER replace what they lost this time! Bama can NEVER replace what they lost this time! Bama can NEVER replace what they lost this time! Bama can NEVER replace what they lost this time! Bama can NEVER replace what they lost this time! Bama can NEVER replace what they lost this time! Bama can NEVER replace what they lost this time! Bama can NEVER replace what they lost this time!"

I think it helps them sleep.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:58 am to
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I know your agenda here. Alabama will be down.
Read my 1st post in this thread.

It's posters like "Roses of Crimson" and "Teague", who I guarantee did not attend Alabama, who are absolutely ruining this board. ReauxlTide222, Patton and I are have a reasonable discussion where we disagree and you 2 sidewalk tools come in and try to start a moronic pissing contest. Glad to see I could slightly ruin your days though.

RT222 and Patton - You seem like good guys, best of luck fellas.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 9:59 am
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:04 am to
People say this every year about Alabama.

It is like were the reverse LSU/Tennessee/Auburn "this is our year!" preseason champs mantra.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:11 am to
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The dude just lit up Michigan State and Clemson in the playoffs. I would pump the brakes on an upgrade with a freshman.

I'm probably in the minority of my fanbase, but I agree...while he could be an upgrade, there'll be a learning curve so I'm in wait and see mode...and, while Barnett might be our starter next year, I still think it could be Bateman...

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Bama's had an incredible run of RB's from Ingram/Coffee-Ingram/Richardson-Richardson/Yeldon-Yeldon/Henry-Henry killing people. Damien Harris looked bad, I mean really bad. Better hope Bo can hold up.

While I don't necessarily agree with you 'bout Harris, this will be the first time in the Saban era where we don't have a plug-n-play RB ready to go, at least experience-wise. Think it'll be Bo but not givin' up on Harris...most of his carries came in garbage time, when we had our second and third team OL in and were still primarily goin' against the other team's ones. He might not pan out but I'll wait and see how he does with our ones. Agree that we'll definitely miss Henry...

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But I just don't see the offense getting better this year. The front 7 is going to take a dip, but your secondary could be great if they don't miss Mel Tucker too much.

While our offense might possibly be better, if our QB/RB replacements pan out, that's a big if...so I pretty much agree. Our front 7 should be really good again, but we won't have the depth we had this year. I think our secondary could be better...Tucker made a big improvement from last year and I think Pruitt will build on that since that's his specialty...

Think what we'll miss the most is leadership. Guys like Robinson, Reed, Allen, Coker, Ragland, Henry, Kelly, and probably Cyrus Jones as well. Those guys had a lot of discipline and our team was pretty much self policed this past year...and we lose all of 'em with the exception of Allen (and we're lucky to have him back).

I was surprised (pleasantly) that we won the SEC and made the playoffs the past 2 years after the attrition each year, so I'm hoping to be surprised again next season...I think we'll be in contention, just not gonna take it for granted that it'll be a slam dunk...
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