re: Rank the top 5 defenses going into 2013 (SEC related)

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1. Alabama - they have a lot of coaching continuity over the years, they have a lot of talent at all levels of the defense, and they've been #1 or close to it for years now.

2. Stanford - return most the two deep on a salty team that plays great defense in a conference of explosive offenses.

3. Michigan - Watch out for this defense to be really good next year. They were young, and didn't have a lot of depth last year and still ranked in the top 15 in total defense. Greg Mattison is really good, and this defense will be better this year.

4. Florida - They have a deep and athletic DL, and a lot of speed at LB. The secondary may be one of the better units in the country again. This will be another tough unit from Florida.

5. LSU - They have coaching consistency on defense, on of the better DC's in the business, and a ton of talent, especially on the back end. If even one pass rusher emerges, this will be a top 5 unit.

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Not that I disagree with you, it's actually pretty good, but there are one or two things that have me scratching my head, so I must ask ...

1 - Bama, agree completely. Perhaps not #1 but certainly Top Five.

2 - Stanford ... yes, the PAC 12 makes them look very good. But put them against a pound-it-out offense and I think they might not look so good. But they will be very very decent, Top Ten at least.

3 - Meeshegan. I love'em, I do, but forget about last year unless you want to admit they gave up more big plays than any team in America last year. Great defenses do not do that. You need only watch a replay of the Outback Bowl vs South Carolina to understand from where I am coming with this observation.

4 - Florida, you mentioned Bama having continuity on their staff, yet you failed to mention UF's lack of continuity on their staff? How many new coaches do that have on that staff, on the D side of the ball this year? Brad Lawing is an exception coach and you have talent ... so Top Five definitely.

5 - LSU, hard to argue with what you typed about LSU.

The, my next question would be, why the diss on SCAR? What negatives, what do you find lacking, in what SCAR returns this season? Perhaps one of the finest DLines in the country in years. A young, but very very talented secondary. LBs are a question mark but they've recruited well there. All but one Defensive coach returns, (Brad Lawing), and he was replaced by Deke Adams who guided UNC's DLine to be one of the best in the country when they least expected it. So why the diss on SCAR? Just wondering - or more wanting, to see how SCAR's D is perceived by you, our negatives, what we are lacking, etc. Thanks in advance. :D

Eta: Both of our DEs are listed on everyone's Top Twenty SEC players selected in next year's draft, and some even have Kelcey Quarles, our junior DT listed as well.

IIRC we only have one new coach on the D. Not sure about the questions about continuity.

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I spit hot fiyah!

LSU should definitely be top 5.

Like the Chief said earlier this week...."players leave, tradition doesn't....I'm still here"

Our starting D is as good as anyone in the country, Chiefs biggest challenge will be to get the back ups ready

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Not that I disagree with you, it's actually pretty good, but there are one or two things that have me scratching my head, so I must ask ...

1 - Bama, agree completely. Perhaps not #1 but certainly Top Five.

2 - Stanford ... yes, the PAC 12 makes them look very good. But put them against a pound-it-out offense and I think they might not look so good. But they will be very very decent, Top Ten at least.

3 - Meeshegan. I love'em, I do, but forget about last year unless you want to admit they gave up more big plays than any team in America last year. Great defenses do not do that. You need only watch a replay of the Outback Bowl vs South Carolina to understand from where I am coming with this observation.

4 - Florida, you mentioned Bama having continuity on their staff, yet you failed to mention UF's lack of continuity on their staff? How many new coaches do that have on that staff, on the D side of the ball this year? Brad Lawing is an exception coach and you have talent ... so Top Five definitely.

5 - LSU, hard to argue with what you typed about LSU.

The, my next question would be, why the diss on SCAR? What negatives, what do you find lacking, in what SCAR returns this season? Perhaps one of the finest DLines in the country in years. A young, but very very talented secondary. LBs are a question mark but they've recruited well there. All but one Defensive coach returns, (Brad Lawing), and he was replaced by Deke Adams who guided UNC's DLine to be one of the best in the country when they least expected it. So why the diss on SCAR? Just wondering - or more wanting, to see how SCAR's D is perceived by you, our negatives, what we are lacking, etc. Thanks in advance. :D

Eta: Both of our DEs are listed on everyone's Top Twenty SEC players selected in next year's draft, and some even have Kelcey Quarles, our junior DT listed as well.

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Michigan gave up a lot of big plays last year but they did not have a lot of depth or experience. They will have a lot more of both going into this next year. And even with the surrendering of big plays, they hung in the top 25 of total and scoring defense all year. Plus they have a very strong DC in Mattison. One of the best IMO.

Stanford's weakness has been pass defense - which I think will be stronger this year, up front, I think they could give anyone trouble. That's a tough unit.

Florida lost a couple of coaches on defense, but considering who they have added, and since that is Muschamp's strength, I think that they will continue to be very strong, especially with the talent at the back end and the names they have on the DL. The only question is LB, and if one more LB emerges, Florida could be one of the better units in the country.

South Carolina has a really good defense and has for a few years now. They have a chance at top 5 if they can be a little bit more consistent in their pass defense than they were last year. They were #11 in total d and #13 in scoring d last year. It's a good unit, and arguably could be included.

LSU has ranked consistently better the last few years though, and I think Florida has a higher ceiling this year because of their ability to force turnovers and get off the field on third down.

I'm really splitting hairs though. South Carolina will be a good defense again.

1. South Carolina
2. Bama
3. Ohio St.
4. Florida
5. LSU (Chavis always has a good D)

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