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re: Rank the SEC baseball teams

Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13979 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:03 pm to
You realize that you are trying to argue facts with opinions that are known to change drastically throughout the year?.

I'll tell you what. Ban bet for the SEC baseball tournament for whoever losses 2 of these 3 categories in the regular season. OBA, ERA, SO's. You game?
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 6:04 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65774 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

You realize that you are trying to argue facts with opinions that are known to change drastically throughout the year?.



I'm not the one that posted the 8 links to draft sites that all had Stanek ahead of Wahl. That guy just helped prove my point that Stanek is the better pitcher.

quote:

Ban bet for the SEC baseball tournament for whoever losses 2 of these 3 categories in the regular season. OBA, ERA, SO's. You game?


So you are wanting to bet for a ban during the SEC Tournament based off the reg season of those 3 stats? I'm down, as long as the loser is back for NCAAT play, SECT is meh so sure why not.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13979 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:21 pm to
Yes, deal
Posted by Marty McFrat
Arkansas hell
Member since Feb 2011
14827 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

Stanek 4th

Stanek 2nd

Stanek 4th

Stanek 4th

Stanek 3rd

Stanek 2nd

Stanek 1st





Boom

Case closed

Stanek >Wahl
Posted by omrebelfan20
27-24 Corndog Blvd
Member since Sep 2012
4845 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:30 pm to
Who the heck is stanek anyway? Haven't heard of him before this thread was started. Was he the guy we roped all over in the first game or the guy that Snyder hit a 3 run homer on in game 1 continued on Saturday
Posted by DriftwoodAg
Driftwood, Texas
Member since Dec 2012
49 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:31 pm to
Looking at it historically, hard to determine other than what is on the surface. The number of players a school sends to The Bigs is a good indicator...

what do I take from these stats? That Arkie fans are once again kings of delusion at #8 in the SEC

LINKNCAA Players in MLB
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 6:35 pm
Posted by BalladofBradSowell
Member since Nov 2012
812 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:35 pm to
long term potential vs. status quo

I'd give Wahl a 1 year contract over Stanek, and Stanek a 10 year contract over Wahl.

I still think Wahl is more developed yet closer to his peak. I'll take that every day when deciding between last year college players.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

1. LSU
2. USCe
3. UF
4. Arky


Since '92, that seems right, LSU has more CSW championships during that time frame. However, the 2000's has been All Cocks.
4 Times we've played in the National Championship game/series, and won 2 of the last 3.

This year we are returning most of the starters, but Roth and Price will be missed.
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
4457 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:45 pm to
Not since '92, but taken from the Top4 troll thread (anchored?):

College World Series Appearances:

LSU - 15 (last appearance/title 2009, won 6 titles)

South Carolina - 11 (last appearance 2012, won 2011 and 2010 titles)

Florida - 8 (last appearance 2012)

Mississippi State - 8 (last appearance 2007)

Arkansas - 7 (last appearance 2012)

Georgia - 6 (last appearance 2008, won 1990 title)

Missouri - 6 (last appearance 1964, won 1954 title)

Texas A&M - 5 (last appearance 2011)

Alabama - 5 (last appearance 1999)

Tennessee - 4 (last appearance 2005)

Auburn - 4 (last appearance 1997)

Ole Miss - 4 (last appearance 1972)

Vanderbilt - 1 (2011)

Kentucky - 0
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65774 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

Who the heck is stanek anyway? Haven't heard of him before this thread was started.


Then you shouldn't be posting in a college baseball thread if you don't even know the top players in the sport or conference.

quote:

Was he the guy we roped all over in the first game or the guy that Snyder hit a 3 run homer on in game 1 continued on Saturday



Neither, he went 6.1 with 1 earned run @ OM last year.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13979 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

Then you shouldn't be posting in a college baseball thread if you don't even know the top players in the sport or conference.


Did you know who Wahl was before today?

BTW Wahl was 1st team all conference last year. Stanek wasn't even 2nd team.
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57764 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

Neither, he went 6.1 with 1 earned run @ OM last year.
Posted by Pigfeet
Ark Mods are Fascists
Member since Mar 2010
19783 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Who the heck is stanek anyway?


Who is this Johnny football kid?

SMH, are you fricking serious with that shite? Get out of the baseball threads and stay the frick out.
Posted by USCGamecocks
New Hampshire
Member since Oct 2008
817 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 8:31 pm to
Who the hell cares about pro potential when talking about college pitchers? See Michael Roth.
Posted by USCGamecocks
New Hampshire
Member since Oct 2008
817 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 8:40 pm to
Lsu, USC, uf, arkansas, uga.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57764 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 8:48 pm to
Unlike other SEC schools, Arkansas' pitchers actually have careers in the MLB. (See Drew Smyly, Cliff Lee, etc.)
Posted by BRUNNIN4
DFW
Member since Mar 2010
3060 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

Unlike other SEC schools, Arkansas' pitchers actually have careers in the MLB. (See Drew Smyly, Cliff Lee, etc.)

That really helped Arkansas wins lots of championships.
Posted by bigbowe80
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
3702 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

Unlike other SEC schools, Arkansas' pitchers actually have careers in the MLB. (See Drew Smyly, Cliff Lee, etc.)


Bryan Wilson and Louis Coleman for LSU say hello. Try again Drewbie. Do Arkansas fans ever get sick of being delusional and trolling? I really don't think so.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37595 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 9:17 pm to
I don't mean to get into the middle of an Ole Miss, Arkansas MSU baseball pissing contest, but I thought I would share how Aaron Fitt sees the coming season in terms of teams most likely to make it to Omaha. Of course, he is usually wrong, he's an ACC homer and a dickhead - but, fwiw, here you go:


quote:



Eight For Omaha

Arkansas


The Hogs will lose the left side of their infield—Matt Reynolds and Tim Carver—plus hard-throwing middle reliever Nolan Sanburn. Junior righthander D.J. Baxendale is a wild card who could return for his senior year or elect to sign with the Twins as a 10th-round pick. If he comes back, Arkansas figures to keep its weekend rotation intact (lefty Randall Fant was a 29th-round pick), but even if Baxendale signs, the Hogs will be loaded on the mound. Ryne Stanek is a near-lock for preseason first-team All-America honors next year, and Barrett Astin will be back to anchor the bullpen or move into the rotation. Bullpen stalwarts Brandon Moore, Colby Suggs, Trent Daniel and Cade Lynch will also be back, and talented freshmen Greg Millhorn and Mark Reyes should take steps forward, making this staff embarrassingly deep. First baseman Dominic Ficociello will return to anchor the lineup, which will benefit from the continued development of promising youngsters Joe Serrano, Brian Anderson and Conor Costello, as well as the addition of Baxendale's younger brother Blake, a slugging catcher/first baseman.

Mississippi State

Sure, the Bulldogs must replace SEC pitcher of the year Chris Stratton and bulldog reliever Caleb Reed, but the overwhelming majority of MSU's SEC tournament championship team will be back—and better, it stands to reason. The Bulldogs will remain incredibly deep on the mound, headlined by holdovers Kendall Graveman (a 36th-round pick who figures to return to school), Ben Bracewell, Evan Mitchell, Ross Mitchell and Luis Pollorena. Closer Jonathan Holder dominated as a freshman, giving MSU a bullpen anchor. Lefty Jacob Lindgren and righthander Brandon Woodruff were heralded recruits who figure to take big steps forward as sophomores. Dynamic shortstop and leading hitter Adam Frazier returns to lead the offense and defense, and the Bulldogs will be much better if they can get a full healthy year from two-way talents C.T. Bradford and Taylor Stark, both of whom have plenty of tools. Darryl Norris and Trey Porter will be back to provide some physicality in the middle of the lineup, and toolsy Hunter Renfroe is a wild card who could blossom.

North Carolina

... the Tar Heels should be among the top contenders for the preseason No. 1 ranking.

North Carolina State

... N.C. State will be loaded, and should have every piece in place to reach Omaha for the first time since 1968.

Oregon State



Stanford

... pitching does look like a question mark heading into next year for Stanford, but the offense should be one of the nation's most fearsome.

Texas Christian



Vanderbilt

The young Commodores took a while to gel in 2012, but when they finally did they became one of college baseball's most dangerous teams. Vandy loses pitchers Sam Selman, Drew Verhagen and Will Clinard plus shortstop Anthony Gomez, but most of the core should be back. That includes outfielders Mike Yastrzemski and Connor Harrell, who were drafted in the 30th and 31st rounds and figure to return as quality seniors. Tony Kemp will be back to set the table, Conrad Gregor returns to provide some physicality in the middle of the lineup, and Spencer Navin returns behind the plate, though he could be pushed by powerful Chris Harvey, a key recruit who struggled as a freshman this spring after enrolling early. Expect athletic outfielder John Norwood to make a step forward as a sophomore as well. Incoming freshman Dansby Swanson has the athleticism, speed, makeup and smooth infield actions to replace Gomez at shortstop immediately. On the mound, the trio of T.J. Pecoraro, Tyler Beede and Kevin Ziomek has a chance to be special if Ziomek can regain his freshman year form and Beede can make the expected leap to superstardom as a sophomore. Brian Miller, Jared Miller, Adam Ravenelle and Steven Rice form a nice bullpen group. The staff should get a boost from elite recruits Walker Buehler (who ranked as the draft's No. 50 prospect thanks to the makings of three legit plus pitches) and Carson Fulmer (the No. 123 prospect thanks to one of the nation's best fastballs). Fellow incoming freshman Rhett Wiseman brings premium bat speed and athleticism, though he's raw.

Eight More For Super Regionals

Cal State Fullerton, Florida State, Louisville, Mississippi, Oregon, Rice, South Carolina, Texas.

Eight Sleepers

Arizona, UCLA, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana State, Pepperdine, San Diego, Southern Mississippi.


Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

Unlike other SEC schools, Arkansas' pitchers actually have careers in the MLB. (See Drew Smyly, Cliff Lee, etc.)


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