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Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:32 pm to HottyToddy7
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:32 pm to HottyToddy7
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and pro scouts projections for how a player will develop in 7 years
Lol wut?
Pitchers these days hit the MLB within a year or two.
Hell our ace from 2011 Drew Smyly went from Arkansas to the Detroit Tigers starting rotation wtf are you talking about?
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Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:33 pm to UltimateHog
LINK
I think you need to do more research.
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Mississippi righthander Bobby Wahl enters the summer as a likely first rounder in 2013.
I think you need to do more research.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:35 pm to BalladofBradSowell
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Stanek and Wahl are both projected top 10
Link.
I follow Baseball America closely and Wahl doesn't even get mentioned.
His top 3 pitchers are Stanek, Appel, Manaea and Hultzen 4th.
No chance in hell Wahl is Top 10 as the 5th at best pitcher in college. Appel and Stanek will go Top 5, assuming Appel rebounds, then there will be a nice drop off.
Wahl will be lucky to go in the first round, his stuff is nowhere near Stanek's, hence Stanek being the projected #1 overall pick.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:36 pm to UltimateHog
I did a simple google search and 2 projections had Walh going 10th to the Blue Jays.
fricking idiot
fricking idiot
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:36 pm to HottyToddy7
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I think you need to do more research.
Lol @ "likely" first rounder compared to #1 overall pick.
Likely = lock?
Some shitbag website vs Baseball America the top website?
Desperate much?
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:39 pm to UltimateHog
It's obvious you had no idea who Wahl was before this thread. Stop looking like an idiot and leave now.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:41 pm to HottyToddy7
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It's obvious you had no idea who Wahl was before this thread. Stop looking like an idiot and leave now.
You've done nothing but proved me correct.
You've posted no links, googling Wahl turns up one link to a shitty website that says he is "likely" a first round pick.
Meanwhile, the top baseball prospect website by a mile, Baseball America, has Stanek the possible #1 overall pick.
Thanks for playing, you may tuck your tail and head out the door.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:44 pm to UltimateHog
Just went to the #2 baseball website, PerfectGame, once again Wahl is mentioned below Stanek, Appel, Manaea, and even Whitson at Florida and Eades at LSU.
Wahl is lucky to make the Top 3 in the SEC at PerfectGame and isn't even mentioned under Top Arms on Baseball America.
Sorry OM fans, maybe next year.
Wahl is lucky to make the Top 3 in the SEC at PerfectGame and isn't even mentioned under Top Arms on Baseball America.
Sorry OM fans, maybe next year.
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:45 pm to UltimateHog
You have 1 source. There is a lot of variety in MLB draft projections.
Wahl 9th
Wahl 12th
Wahl 4th
Wahl 10th
Wahl 12th
Wahl 9th
Wahl 13th
Wahl 13th
Wahl 11th
I could keep going. All I did was google 2013 mock draft and go down the list. Every one had him in the top 15.
Wahl 9th
Wahl 12th
Wahl 4th
Wahl 10th
Wahl 12th
Wahl 9th
Wahl 13th
Wahl 13th
Wahl 11th
I could keep going. All I did was google 2013 mock draft and go down the list. Every one had him in the top 15.
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:46 pm to BalladofBradSowell
I clicked the fist 2 links and all had him way behind Stanek.
Case and point.
Case and point.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:46 pm to HottyToddy7
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Stanek: 2.82 ERA, .229 OBA, 83/36 SO/BB
Wahl: 2.55 ERA, .211 OBA, 104/32 SO/BB
Knocked off the hill vs MSU
or
Knocked off the hill vs MSU
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Toss Up.
Slight lean to Stanek because he actually beat us in the regular season -- when we were down 5 opening day starters.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:47 pm to engie
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Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:48 pm to UltimateHog
You said that it wasn't close and by draft projections it is close. And Wahl's numbers are better. You have lost this argument.
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:49 pm to UltimateHog
quote:I won't argue Stanek is projected to have higher upside. Wahl is further along at the current time though. That is all that matter this season.
I clicked the fist 2 links and all had him way behind Stanek. Case and point.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:50 pm to BalladofBradSowell
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Wahl 9th
Wahl 12th
Wahl 12th
Wahl 9th
Wahl 13th
Wahl 13th
Wahl 11th
Stanek 4th
Stanek 2nd
Stanek 4th
Stanek 4th
Stanek 3rd
Stanek 2nd
Stanek 1st
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:51 pm to BalladofBradSowell
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I won't argue Stanek is projected to have higher upside. Wahl is further along at the current time though. That is all that matter this season.
Heh, Stanek made huge strides between his first year and last year to move him up that high by scouts.
Who's to say he won't take his skills further again this year and be even more dominant as everything you've posted says Stanek has the better stuff.
We'll find out in 9 weeks.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:52 pm to UltimateHog
Wahl is better you can try to convince yourself that scouts mean more than actual numbers, but your the only one who will believe that. Especially when the scouts have Wahl and Stanek less than 10 picks difference. Your whole argument went to shite.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:54 pm to HottyToddy7
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Wahl is better you can try to convince yourself that scouts mean more than actual numbers, but your the only one who will believe that. Especially when the scouts have Wahl and Stanek less than 10 picks difference. Your whole argument went to shite.
Lol, yeah because 10-12th pick is on the same level as 1st and 2nd pick.
Not a single site you will find has Wahl over Stanek, especially going forward to the next level.
Stop it, even your other fan agree'd.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 5:56 pm to UltimateHog
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Lol, yeah because 10-12th pick is on the same level as 1st and 2nd pick.
Not a single site you will find has Wahl over Stanek, especially going forward to the next level.
Stop it, even your other fan agree'd.
Your whole argument was that numbers didn't matter because the scouts don't have Wahl in Stanek's league. But when we proved that yes, he was a top 15 prospect, that you said he wasn't on the 2nd page, you say that he still isn't on Stanek's level. We showed you the numbers and Wahl a good bit better last year. Your argument of him being much better in the Scout's eye's is now shot. What is your next attempt for an argument?
Here are the numbers again.
Stanek: 2.82 ERA, .229 OBA, 83/36 SO/BB
Wahl: 2.55 ERA, .211 OBA, 104/32 SO/BB
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 12/18/12 at 6:01 pm to HottyToddy7
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Your whole argument was that numbers didn't matter because the scouts don't have Wahl in Stanek's league.
Correct, they don't. Wahl is in tier 2.
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But when we proved that yes, he was a top 15 prospect
Which is still Tier 2, there are 4-5 other pitchers ahead of Wahl. Big difference.
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you say that he still isn't on Stanek's level.
Because he's not, Scouts agree. Wahl isn't a Top 10 pick like I said earlier, Stanek is Top 3, and #1 on some.
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We showed you the numbers and Wahl a good bit better last year.
And is still behind Stanek by multiple spots because he's just not as good a pitcher. Period.
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