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re: Questions for Ole Miss fans about NCAA
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:24 pm to Whereisomaha
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:24 pm to Whereisomaha
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What does this have to do with us winning games?
Nothing. I never said it did. I was replying to you asking what Ole Miss has done differently from any other school. I even quoted what I was replying to.
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:30 pm to dbeck
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ISWYDT
I didnt do shite, but funny how things work out
OM wont win a championship until 4025...
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:43 pm to Whereisomaha
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OM won more top 25 games than anyone not names Alabama and ohio state during 2014 & 2015. A rebuild from the worst season in OM history takes time but by year 3 and 4 OM was averaging 9.5 wins and recruiting in the top 10. That was done with less talent than half the programs in the league.
But whatever. Some people believe that the name on your jersey or your history wins games and not the players and coaches. OM has a top 10 salary and a top 20 recruiting job. With the right coach that means its a top 20 job.
You refuse to acknowledge that all of that was due to blatant cheating. With all that has come out it's quite impressive your stance has still remained unchanged. ANd that was still the outlier, not the norm. Nutt had back to back 9 win seasons too.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:45 pm to lsufball19
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You refuse to acknowledge that all of that was due to blatant cheating.
kind of evident by their record last year...
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:45 pm to lsufball19
Is this piling on?
Don't care, it's funny. All credit to SPS
Don't care, it's funny. All credit to SPS
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:47 pm to NYCAuburn
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Also, just to check your stat, are you saying no other team beat more than 4 top 25 teams in that 2 year period?
I checked one team and they had that in one year
LSU had 5 top 25 wins from 2014-2015 and were pretty mediocre both years. He's making that stat up
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:49 pm to Tuscaloosa
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This was done by blatantly paying players. What about that are you failing to comprehend?
I miss the accusation of blatant paying players. Please enlighten me.
Before Freeze OM recruited in the top 20 with bad teams and bad coaches.
Like I've said before if you think because your name is Miami or Nebraska that you are automatically going to win games then I cant change your mind. If you believe that the more money you have for coaches and the better players they can attract matters then OM is a top 20 job.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 1:56 pm to Whereisomaha
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I miss the accusation of blatant paying players. Please enlighten me.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:04 pm to Whereisomaha
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I miss the accusation of blatant paying players. Please enlighten me.
I have enlightened you twice in this very thread, providing details I saw with my own eyes during my time as a high school coach in Mississippi.
In addition, you can read Allegation 16 in the NOA. Tens of thousands of dollars to a player who didn't even sign with Ole Miss. How much do you think went to players like Treadwell, Massey, Nkemdiche, etc.?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:04 pm to Whereisomaha
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I think the penalties should be what they are self imposed plus huge show causes for the coaches who did this. Hell if you want OM to get rid of their entire administration that was involved, fine. If you want a lifetime ban for boosters fine. But punishing kids who had nothing to do with this is why the ncaa is viewed so negatively.
The Bowl bans could allow players to transfer out freely so these kids won't be hurt by this. You could argue about the kids not on scholarship but let's be honest, if all you have on the team are kids who couldn't get scholarships, they weren't going to a bowl game anyway.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:07 pm to Whereisomaha
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Before Freeze OM recruited in the top 20 with bad teams and bad coaches
3 times in 10 years does not equate to a Top 20 Recruiting school.
Ole Miss was ranked outside of the top 30 on 4 different occasions in that same 10 year window. So you would be more accurate in stating that OM is a Top 40 Recruiter
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:10 pm to Whereisomaha
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Yes, if you assume OM goes to the mean and hires bad coaches, which is possible. I am assuming they don't if they get just a 1 year ban. OM recruits in the top 20 with Tubby, O, Nutt and Freeze. If they are decent coaches like Freeze and Tubby they will win (Tubby was under harsh sanctions). But yes, if its a Matt Luke or a mediocre to bad coach then OM will win 6-7 games.
And Tubby's was the only one of those staffs that didn't get hit for cheating. I'm thinking the NCAA has in mind for y'all to quit cheating. Then, we may see your true recruiting potential. Right now it is mid-level Sun Belt (just for reference).
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:40 pm to Whereisomaha
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You aren't being treated unfairly. Your school violated rules like most do, but the difference is you did it at a different level and did it WHILE under investigation.
quote:Just my $.02, but when the Asst Athletic Director orchestrates a Booster/player/recruit network and the Head Coach is not only aware of the arrangements, but actually complicit in the scheme along with various other coaches.....and then goes on to falsify recruiting information to the Compliance Dept, then that's on a whole different level that others.
At what different level? What did OM do that is at a different level than others?
Posted on 8/10/17 at 2:42 pm to bamasgot13
We are guilty but this is nothing new in NCAA football.
Posted on 8/10/17 at 4:09 pm to Whereisomaha
quote:Dude, this current storm y'all are in spans multiple coaching staffs, multiple AD's, 3 separate athletic programs and so many coaches that it'd be hard to list them all. The NCAA wants to take your knees out and honestly they should. I'd love to see what your Admin plans to do when they go before the COI for the 3rd time in 2 yrs and try to defend themselves for LOIC.
Whereisomaha
Posted on 8/10/17 at 4:56 pm to Whereisomaha
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Whereisomaha
You've lost your damn mind. I look forward to watching Ole Miss get waxed by Middle Tennessee here in a few years when Middle schedules them for homecoming.
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